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moredrag 2nd Oct 2010 16:14

Christ!!! what was this thread about?
And I though we were overworked, where is all the energy here coming from?:)

Wizofoz 2nd Oct 2010 16:46


Wiz,
More EK 777 Capt's failed the sim eval at KAL then passed , so what does that say about the standard at EK?
Not very much.

It says a GREAT deal about the Koreans idea of aviation- and a brief look at their accident stats will show where that leads.

As to the PPCs- What Eklawer said!!

411A 3rd Oct 2010 00:05


In any event, most of the ongoing posters/whingers on this forum, if given an engine failure for real after t/o at 500' in a Baron 58, ATR72, Boeing 737, or any EK type would end up in a shallow smoking hole in the ground a couple of miles beyond the upwind threshold.
GET A LIFE, stop whingeing and resign if you have the balls or the experience to go elsewhere !!
As the poster claims to be in the LHS at EK, he might actually know....:}

pool 3rd Oct 2010 03:56

Ahhhh, we finally understand the vindicative, obnoxious and always oblivious answers of 411A on this site: He's been through such failure here as well, he's an expert!! Otherwise why on earth should he bother posting here but to rid himself of his failure by belitteling others.
This will not bring you back that cherished EK positive assessment, so keep sobbing on other sites, please.

troff 3rd Oct 2010 05:18

8000+ posts
 
411A,
You have over 8000 posts on PPRuNe.
Get a life!
T

captainsmiffy 3rd Oct 2010 09:18

....but ask him if he owns a goldfish first...

FcU 3rd Oct 2010 09:21

No, only one post just submitted 8000 times. What else is he going to do living in the 6th century. At least he's predictable...:rolleyes::bored:

SOPS 3rd Oct 2010 15:32

re 411a
 
please please please someone stop him......at 8000 plus posts he cant possibly fly anymore, he just sits around to annoy the rest of us

pool 3rd Oct 2010 18:17


Quote:
This will not bring you back that cherished EK positive assessment,
Positive from whom?:rolleyes:
Dear 411A. Just read and recognize yourself, thanks and good bye for good:

How to Deal With Rejection Syndrome


By Nicholas Anyanwu http://img.ezinearticles.com/spriting/trans.gif




This aspect of handling rejection requires deep understanding. You have read in most inspirational books on how to succeed, but most of these books discuss little or nothing of how to handle the dangerous two lettered word "NO". In most cases, you have ended up a good relationship because a friend, a wife, a husband, a business partner, associate or acquaintance said "NO" to your greatest need. Yes indeed, nobody wants to be rejected by anyone else but in daily human relationships, one should anticipate such and be prepared to give an articulate positive reply that can neutralize its effect. If you have not you have not mastered this art, you have to do so. Don't just accept defeat. Learn to say no to no.
This instruction is in line with the military philosophy which states that "If you want peace, you must be prepared for war". If at all you want grand success, you must be ready to arm or equip yourself with necessary fact that can enable you handle any form of "NO" or rejection.
In all societies, developed or underdeveloped, there are lots of mean fellows who do not appreciate other people's success or efforts. They create public criticism, shout horrible insults and create avenues to ridicule you, your family, friends and associates. These groups of never-do-well can create different forms of rejection. If you don't understand them for what they are, you may give room for a negative mental attitude within you. There should be no room for inner intimidation which indirectly affects your physical stand for success. Be sure you train yourself in the art of controlling external rejection, no matter whom it comes from. If you accept yourself and able to develop enough self confidence, you will be able to handle any form of rejection.

411A 3rd Oct 2010 23:50


How to Deal With Rejection Syndrome
This might well be directed toward some of the pilots at EK, who, it seems...are 'rejected' by their esteemed management....such as it is.:{:{:{

EFC 3 DAYS 4th Oct 2010 12:36

EKLawyer wrote

Let's face it when continuing a flight with no weather radar to Lagos through the ITCZ and then destroying both windshields is considered risk medium by flight safety................

I would be more concerned as to why a crew would, knowingly, fly through the ITCZ to an airport located in an area that is known for massive CB activity with a weather radar that was inop?

One would have to ask the question whether the decision made to proceed was based on the pilots fears of a reprecussions from management for returning to base with what they would perceive as simply a broken weather radar OR did the pilot think that the best option, taking safety into consideration, was to press on and fly to Lagos without a weather radar during peak CB activity season?

Either way............ :uhoh:

Panther 88 4th Oct 2010 16:07

OTOH, keep up the goog work, 411A. You make more sense in 2 lines than most with those sensitive little toes say in 5 paragraphs.

411A 4th Oct 2010 19:32

Panther 88 has the picture...
 

OTOH, keep up the goog work, 411A. You make more sense in 2 lines than most with those sensitive little toes say in 5 paragraphs.
No doubt about it.
It would appear that many at EK were led down the garden path by 'pie in the sky' recruitment policies at EK, and now face the truth.

Are they (collectively) to 'blame'?
Yup...as there is no 'free lunch'....except perhaps for direct entry Commanders, who will be continued to be hired, make no mistake.
Is this 'somehow fair' to those hard-working First Officers already at EK?
No, and...IF I were in charge, it would be a different story.

However, I ain't, therefore...it won't.

Craggenmore 4th Oct 2010 20:12

Ha ha.......The ignore list works..!!

theaviator2005 5th Oct 2010 04:51

Hello ya'll :8

Don't know if I'm living inside some fantasy world where i make up crazy idea's in my head hehe but i been told the last God knows how long that EK is looking for F/O's and going online sure they do have the ad's running on Both the Website and even some other recruitment website's. So I was just wondering as i do believe i meet requirements set in their add if the HR department is just really slow or simply NON existent??? As i have had noooo reply for the past 6 month...

So i was wondering if any of you guy's might have a direct Email to forward my CV, greatly appreciated if possible :O

fatbus 5th Oct 2010 05:18

Recruitment is going flat out at the moment. HR is constantly putting filters on the CV's on file to see what they have IE total time verse glass verse heavy verse nationality.

Just because you meet the mins does not mean they will be calling right away, but do update as things change every week.

Currently most,not all, of the new hires have loads of heavy/ glass/ international time.

woofer 5th Oct 2010 05:57

EK DEC's
 
It is not my intention to stir up matters. I just would like any feedback to the following question.

May I please ask whether EK have the intention to hire any DEC's in the near future?

pool 5th Oct 2010 06:29

woofer

in short, no, not for the time
otherwise 411A would be licking sandals around here instead of posting drivel.

fatbus 5th Oct 2010 06:43

"EK say they will only recruit DECs when there are insufficient suitable and qualified FOs"

That's what they said last time and was not the case, DEC's can happen anytime they want. If you have 330/340 or 777 LHS they will look at you .

BusyB 5th Oct 2010 10:09

Tight Tight:d


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