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EK380 16th Sep 2010 09:49

VFR by Night in UAE?
 
Does anybody know if VFR by night is allowed in the UAE FIR?

Two friends are on an around the world trip in a single engine homebuilt and plan to land in OMDB tonight around 45 mins after SS after a 11hr flight non-stop form Luxor... They are VFR only.

You can follow them at: http://www.flyingjuniors.com

Tower Ranger 16th Sep 2010 11:45

Yes VFR at night is fine, the vis is holding around 6k`s at the moment although it`s pretty hazy so they may not see much on the way in. If I get a chance later I`ll post when they arrive.

FREQUENTFLYER1234 16th Sep 2010 12:16

Car Part Viii
 
Here's the info:

3.4 VFR FLIGHT AT NIGHT

No person shall operate an aircraft under VFR at night unless:
(a) the pilot-in-command receives clearance from ATC to operate VFR in controlled
airspace under the jurisdiction of the ATC unit issuing the clearance; or
(b) the operation involves a bona fide casualty evacuation and the flight crew is instrument
rated and current; or
(c) for night currency training conducted within controlled airspace or within a designated
training area approved by the GCAA.

EGGW 16th Sep 2010 13:26

Just off Doha right now :ok: Good work fellas! Enjoy the pleasures of DXB :E

EGGW.

euindkan 16th Sep 2010 13:51

VFR by night is allowed and the ATC generally clears you. I had one instance though where UAE control cancelled my VFR plan and sent me back without any reason.

Cheers.

Tower Ranger 16th Sep 2010 14:54

The Eagle has landed, arrived IFR at 1453.

EK380 16th Sep 2010 16:07

Thanks for the info guys!

They won't have much time to enjoy... planning to fly the +11hr non-stop trip to Nagpur, India tomorrow by sunrise!

shortfuel 16th Sep 2010 16:19

Good luck to them!

I think their most challenging sector is Hawaii-California, 4000km+ on a single-engine piston above the Pacific!...:D

EK380 16th Sep 2010 16:28

The engine doesn't know it's over the Pacific ;)

Weather will be the biggest issue for tomorrows flight! The monsoon is late this year and still very active...
:ok:

Tower Ranger 16th Sep 2010 19:17

Well they might have one small problem getting away early tomorrow morning. They came in IFR and as they couldn`t comply with the star have been grounded by the GCA, so they`ll need to get a release from them before they can depart Dubai.

Sgnr de L'Atlantique 16th Sep 2010 20:28

As far as I know none of the pilots are IFR qualified....Could cause some trouble with the GCA if you ask me.

Hopefully my info is wrong...:uhoh:

shortfuel 16th Sep 2010 20:41

On their website, one of the guy is a copilot in a Corporate Aviation company. So I guess he's IR rated.

Even though they're IR and the a/c is IR equipped...DXB is RNAV5 ARR and DEP.
And...I don't think their SEP is RNAV5 capable.

Me thinks they would have better landed in AAN :E...

mutt 16th Sep 2010 22:29


plan to land in OMDB tonight around 45 mins after SS after a 11hr flight non-stop form Luxor... They are VFR only
Surely this question should have been answered before they took off??

Mutt

Jetjock330 17th Sep 2010 13:03


Well they might have one small problem getting away early tomorrow morning. They came in IFR and as they couldn`t comply with the star have been grounded by the GCA, so they`ll need to get a release from them before they can depart Dubai.
Poor fella's. I guess they exceeded the 230kts on their arrival in the 180hp machine.

I couldn't even fly the approach, let alone the arrival in that little thing. The mere fact they got from Europe to as far as Dubai proves they can navigate, but I suppose, someone must strut their feathers about a little aeroplane.

Next time guys, land in Al Ain!:ok:

euindkan 17th Sep 2010 13:31

the live traker shows they are still at OMDB. any updates about the +11 hr trip to Nagpur,india.

EK380 17th Sep 2010 21:38

They are trying to get to Ahmedabad Saturday and then continue to Calcutta the next day.

The GCAA stuff seems to be mostly sorted. Just need to show them all IFR plates before T/O.


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