Thanks BLOGGSON, sounds interesting.

Cheers

Thanks 380, nice wing on that thing...!!

Instant Hooligan,

My comments have nothing to do with that ASR. It is about the actions of management.

The TRE intentionally broke an SOP. Intentionally....

The FO who wrote the ASR was Removed from Roster as he embarrased this TRE and the company. Think Australian Safety Board.

The FO was not, is not "sick".

The TRE remained on line. Think Australian Safety Board.

The Fo's career prospects are questionable. (I think he'll be fired soon)

My point is all about the threats from Management. This case is a prime example of that. (As was Manchester, where the crew was fired)


|Jinglie'd

Jinglied!
 

I know the TRE in question, and I know the FO.
The TRE is one of the practical trainers whose CRM skills are top notch. The FO on the other hand is bordering on paranoid, and I personally do not think he has a place in an airplane cockpit.
Pork

porkandbrew...

You obviously know both of these individuals better than I. I just wonder what type of CRM this A380 senior TRE was using when he intentionally busted SOP's. Post flight data confirms it.

I know the FO, but not well. Paranoid? After this incident, I would be!!

And by the way, go see the boss of HR. Normally I would say she's a great girl. Ask her about this little incident and see how she reacts....

Jinglie'd

I have no respect for people who have to run to management to settle their own problems. Doesn't deserve a job...should go

Roger THAT!

SEAMAN STAYNES (great name) from EK wrote
Never used to be like this, I put it down to the type of guys we are attracting now, not everyone (before you all shout out) but we do seem to get some really weird guys now
I assume that the majority of ASRs are written by Captains. With that in mind I would therefore suggest that the stupid, silly and idiotic ASRs you complain about are not written by newhire pilots but by the newly upgraded First Officers who are now Captains. Maybe you should reword your post to to read "we do seem to be upgrading some really limp First Officers now"

any personal favourites for ASRs?
 

Some of mine are "almost an unstable approach" and that old standby "unable to contact Bombay on HF".

...254 knots at 4,700ft. Definately need an ASR for that :ugh:

or generated config warning because f30 selected before gear down due to trying to meet 1500' cutoff etc ... indicates a serious lack of SA more to me ... having no idea of aircraft configuration and generating self inflicted warnings...??? and ......yes I have done it once too... when tired... but really do we need to tell folks about it.... just makes you look like a numpty to me!! but what would I know... unless you are trying to quote fatigue.. but then that is a thin wedge...
WJA

....always be careful standing up to expose yourself.... as in war, the bullet finds it's mark so much easier.

What are the safety related implications of the system doing it's job??

Perfect case in point, Config warning on takeoff due gear not straight. Once again terrible SA, but certainly not requiring an ASR.

Cav.

now that we are talking ASRs
 

Best one I ve ever read in the weekly reports was the one climbing out at
>260 kts when he was close to MTOW. (for the non B drivers: close to clean spead in climb). you must really be a w@nk3r.

S.S. totally with you on this one.

What are considered the desirable / undesirable trips? I'd imagine Africa would be low on the list, and Europe/Australia high based on the amount of expats from those countries. What about East Asia and South East Asia?

Alot of Guys on the Airbus actually request Africa just to get a layover and avoid more Indian turns. What a life!

Otherwise, there are enough guys here from around the globe to make everywhere desirable for someone.

Cav.

Although I'd imagine the Indian pilots probably don't mind the India turns as much as others...

We don't dislike flying to India because it's India. The Indian turns are actually quite decent in terms of flight duty time - about 3 hours each way.
The problem is the time of day, with most departing late at night. Even Indian pilots hate doing these as anyone else would.

and why would Indian pilots like doing turns to india. day time ones are not bad at all its the crap at night that no one wants, but if the indian guys want them at night I have a couple they can have

That's quite a good idea: have the indian pilots fly the indian turn-arounds. They are better placed to cope with the gibberish on VHF and deal with the infernal bad manners of the masses climbing over each other on HF, not to mention the bull****-artists amongst the ground-staff after they land.

Someone with local exposure to the culture can better work with the idiotic processes on the ground. And they'll be better at it if the inevitable issues with some of the world-renowned horrible pax that ALWAYS take place get out of hand and they need the capt involved for whatever reason.

Capetown is a looooong flight with plenty of nighttime flying but the S. Africans climb over each other to get it. They can have it!

The French love going to Paris which is arguably a pain in the butt.

People complain about the "rigours" of flying to Australia yet the aussies seem happy enough with it. Leave it to them!

Leave bombay and madras for the indians; they should love it more than anyone else!

Imagine what a boost for morale that would be! We should request one of TCAS's bull**** online polls about it immediately. Even if it was secretly voted against, TCAS could just lie to us again and push it in anyway. :) :) :)

...and all the expats should leave Dubai to the Emiratis?:hmm:

what does all this mean?
 

do you not bid for lines? how many days off do you get a month? do you just work on call? How many days off in the month do you get? How many hours do you fly when your working? What are the FLIGHT hours like?
FOr instance,
i go to work now, fly 4-8 hour days...go to overnight (usually 8-12 hours)
then fly again for 3 more days.
Im away from home 4 days a week and home for 3 days.

IS there anything positive to say about Emirates? Id like to hear all the bad with the good....

Am a 777 driver, 103 hours this month, 8 days off :ugh:
Never worked harder in my life :mad:
Time to get outta here, this is just ridiculous :=

I know its Crimbo next month blah blah blah....but has anyone seen sign of their F/O or Cpt roster yet? :hmm:

Airbus rosters are out. Another 90 hour month.:ugh: Still, I see from 7 Days today that our independent and unbiased regulator says that there is no fatigue problem here. So that's alright then.

So no one can post an actual monthly roster (schedule or whatever you call it) because manangement will see it and bust you? I'm not trying to bust anyone's balls here, but dustyprops and 145qrh made it sound like posting an actual schedule, even de-identified, could get you identified and into trouble...

All the info you guys have provided is great, its really appreciated, but do I understand correctly that we (non EK pilots) will never see an ACTUAL schedule until we work there or we're really good friends with someone?

thanks

Rosters
 

It's a schedule. What do you want to know? You do a few flights and you get a fewer days off. Some flights are night turns and some are not. Layovers are sometimes short or long. Days away are two to nine.
They are as different as snowflakes.
Can you show me a snowflake? I want to know what one looks like. :ugh:

Nice one Troff:D

Where's my roster?
 

TROFF,

What I want to know is: when are my days off so I can plan some kind of social life. I don't give a toss which bit of tarmac they're sending me to or how often.

It's not asking much to want to be able to tell your friends that you can or cannot come to their piss up or buy tickets for a concert etc, is it?

The company expects maximum flexibility from us but in this respect they steadfastly refuse to afford us the same courtesy. (Yeah, I know, I shouldn't be surprised).

Bloggs

Hello

I'm curious to know whether or not flight crew are able to leave DXB on days off? If I were to join would I be able to go to the UK on a block of 4-5 days off at least once a month? If so which fleet is preferable for this?

Kind Regards,

I highly doubt you'll ever get 4-5 days off at one time.

In theory it's possible, but most months you would have to work hard to do swaps and sell your soul to get the days off. There are a number of folks that do it but it ain't easy!

If you need to have the days off every month, IMHO, don't do it. If it's not a must, but something you could live without on a regular basis, delve a little deeper.

H-D

There are plenty of pilots getting 4-5 days off in a row and some even more 7+, you just cant count on it.

Possible on the 777 or 380 fleets currently, but don't count on it. Completely impossible on the 330/340 fleet. It's a short haul fleet being scheduled with no ULR's with similar hours to the long haul fleets. Crazy and dangerous. Go 777 or 380.

Thanks for the info guys. Will keep it all in mind if I choose to go down this route.

Roster Vs 42 Annual Leave Days
 

Hello,

I would appreciate If someone could give me a brief explanation in how the 42 annual leave days are allocated. Can I group about 3 annual leave days everymonth with my days off, so I end up having 6-7 days off consecutively, like in Korean Air?? I have no clue how it works, and would be very helpful to see if I can commute home at least once per month, with 6-7 days off aprox.

Thanks!!

Free Wings....not ubtil hell freezes over.....I would kill for enough days off to ger home.....

Why isn't annual leave days allocated on a yearly basis?

With all the recruitment going on, new joiners and command upgrades, why is Emirates still short of staff?

Leave..allocated on a annual basis...:ugh:..thats funny..sometimes they will give a "forced" group of just 4 days leave (useless if you want to leave Dubai to go home) but handy to EK if you are bunping on max hours....as far as "all yne new joiners"....maybe the supply is running out, and also new aircraft keep arriving without enough crew to fly them, so the hours stay high, for captains at least:{

Annual Leave
 

Thanks SOPS,

now that I know that no chance, or at least difficult to get home everymonth, still don't know how they allocate your 42 leave days.
Do you have a few of them everymonth, or twice a year 10 days... I am just guessing. Obviously EK is not commuting contract, but the ones that you are working there and live in Europe, how often do you guys go home??