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AMEERKHALIL 4th Feb 2010 13:01

How many persons are they going to take this time and when they will start their training and where?

I heard that the second batch are about to start their course.

Any idea about the passing rate of the compass test?

Yo767 4th Feb 2010 18:02

What about the passing rate of ''How to fly the :mad: airplane during the last 50ft before landing''?

A frustrated ex 767 Captain

Message to TRIs and TREs: It is very nice to teach cadets about SECs, FACs and ELACs and all those nice computers but what about teaching them how to :mad: land the goddammed airplane?

SkyDive6 11th Mar 2010 05:55

thank you guys, as so many told me before. I think it would be wise to stick to my current situation although not interested in it as much as Flying.

Thank you again.

G-FULL 11th Mar 2010 11:18

@skydive6; I think I met you in Costa in January with my friend. GO FOR IT! -- Don't look back, don't mind the utter nonsense people here post. Most of them are not even pilots, they are wannabes and jealous :)

SkyDive6 11th Mar 2010 11:29

G-Full, I would really appreciate it if you'd give some more support to your advise?

I mean being a Pilot (besides the payment) it's a job i would die for but not useful if not employed correct? so 100 cadets from GAA to be marketed only and no job guarantee sounds very downing especially for me who is nearly 27 years old!

QA signed a contract with the Indians for new cadets, GF are going down the hill, Etihad + Emirates + FlyDubai don't look promising because they are only looking for F/Os and Captains, and the West are unreachable due to my nationality restriction.

hmm..

Mephistopheles 11th Mar 2010 11:35

I would think very very carefully about taking a huge loan & then going training since there is no job guarantee, no matter what the guys at GAA say. Remember at the end of the day they are there to make money so the more of you they convince to take a nice big loan the better there bottom line is. They claim that they will help you find a job but with who-GF is very quickly going down the toilet & no longer has any ties with Mumtalakat, Bahrain Air has plenty of its own problems & I would be surprised to see if any of the 2 will be expanding within the next 5-10 years.
Sorry to ruin many of your guys dreams but just ask around coz there are almost +80 cadets sitting around Bahrain after their graduation waiting for a job & many cannot even find a non-aviation related job.
Bottom line-unless you have money to throw away I suggest you stick with whatever job you have.

G-FULL 11th Mar 2010 12:38

@Skydive6; The west is coming here, not the opposite. You have the GCC airlines that would take you because you are Bahraini. Air Arabia head of HR is Bahraini, Qatar Airways is also Bahraini. Bahrain Air would take you and don't forget, Gulf Air would NEVER go down. Might become private but not down. Best of luck and go for it! :ok:

Mephistopheles 11th Mar 2010 13:06

G-FULL are you even in the aviation business?


The west is coming here, not the opposite.
I have no idea what you mean by that comment but the is not coming here to Bahrain, they are interested Saudi, UAE & Qatar. Bahrain does not even show up on their radar.


You have the GCC airlines that would take you because you are Bahraini.
What have Bahrainis suddenly become special? I think not. There are plenty of other full qualified & experienced nationalities around. The airline in the region are basing their future plans & crewing requirement on the availability of Bahraini pilots.

Bahrain Air will take you if you pay for your sim & line training.

GF may after you after a prolonged period of being unemployed & depending on if needed or not.

Arabia will take you if you pay BD20000.

Qatar do not non national take S/Os.

Emirates do not take non national S/Os.

Etihad do not take non national S/Os.

So basically your best bet,if you are dying to fly, is to hand over another BD20000 & go for Arabia since both GF & Bahrain Air cannot be trusted.

BD70000 to get a license & job!?!? Sounds like too big a gamble.

SkyDive6 11th Mar 2010 13:21

Mephistopheles,


Arabia will take you if you pay BD20000
Pay AA for what exactly?

And as for QA they do take S/Os from all nationalities under one requirement, they should be below 28 years old and I can confirm that because I spoke with a person who works in QA HR (Two weeks ago).

As for the part you said it is a gamble your 100% correct that's why I came knocking here to get more perspective on the industry and to see more suggestions but I am keeping in my mind that there are people like you, G-Full, and others here might be trying to help or not. Some being really supportive and some not.

So I thank you.

G-FULL 11th Mar 2010 13:53

@ Mephistopheles : I doubt you are. WE do have American/European and South American pilots among us in Bahrain.

Bahrain Air does not require the pay upfront but rather deducted from your salary if you are a national. Air Arabia is run by a Bahraini CEO/HR etc... so there are exceptions :)

@Skydive6; It depends on how happy you are in the bank and if you can to recover a bit after the training. There is always a self-sponsored route if you can afford it.

Best of luck

Mephistopheles 11th Mar 2010 14:07

G-FULL I have been in this once beautiful airline for a little over a quarter of a century, probably way before you even saw your first aeroplane. The expats that joined us within the last few years only did so since they were out of work or were working in dead end airlines & thought GF might be a good career move(?). Many of them did not get excepted by EK/EY/QR so they joined us & many are trying to make a move at this moment.
QR only accept Qataris S/Os.
Bahrain Air will charge per training sector & then when you get cleared don't even think about getting your F/Os salary since they will tell you that you will remain on your S/O salary for another 6 months to pay for the training costs???
Air Arabia's CEO may be Bahraini but he will not compromise his position by waving the company's training costs for a few cadets.

Mephistopheles 11th Mar 2010 14:34

SkyDive6 I would noramlly encourage anyone to take up flying since it is a fantastic, interesting & well paying career. But in my day GF fully sponsored us & gave us jobs at the end of it. The times have changed greatly now & the cost a getting a foot in the door is now vast & possibly crippling. We were very lucky indeed in our day. For people to tell you just to "go for it" without thinking of the possible outcomes is inconsiderate & coming from a professional pilot very unexpected. I just tell people like yourself do not jump into it blindly, investigate your options, weigh up your risks & then make an educated decision.

almoabd 6th Jul 2010 14:42

help me please
 
I know they will give us the English, physics and mathematics I want to know how are the tests and what will be these questions for Admission Test
because i want to study for the admission test :)

CadetPilot 15th Apr 2011 23:32

"As part of Tamkeen’s initiatives and programmes for Human Capital Development, an agreement was signed today between Tamkeen and the Gulf Aviation Academy (GAA) to train and qualify 65 Bahraini pilots seeking jobs with a total cost of up to BD 490,000, with Tamkeen covering the tuition fees equally with the trainees. This agreement, signed by Tamkeen’s Vice President for Enterprises and Human Capital Development, Dr. Ahmed Abdul Ghani Al-Shaikh, and the Chief Executive Officer of GAA, Mr. Tim Shattock, comes within the package of training programmes stated in the signed MOU between the two parties during Bahrain International Air show back in January 2010, through which Tamkeen aims to provide distinctive training opportunities in advanced specialisations for Bahrainis. Moreover, the agreement states to employ the trainees after successful completion of their training programme in a number of international airlines.
Gulf Aviation Academy is a pioneering initiative and a valuable part of Bahrain’s aviation industry. As shareholders and investors, we see GAA as an essential part of our strategy to grow and diversify Bahrain’s economy and back initiatives to create high value jobs.” said Mr. Talal Al Zain, the CEO of Bahrain Mumtalakat Holding Co.
He added: “This partnership with Tamkeen will ensure that more Bahrainis receive the skills and training they deserve. It is an initiative we should all be proud of.” P <>
In a statement on this occasion, Tamkeen’s VP Dr. Ahmed AbdulGhani Al-Shaikh praised this agreement, its outcomes and the fruitful cooperation with GAA, especially as it opens a window of opportunity for the Bahraini trainees to enter the local and regional labour market in distinctive specialisations, which Tamkeen hopes to achieve through its programmes and initiatives for the Bahraini youth.
“Tamkeen will equally share the training cost with the trainees, where the total cost per trainee will amount to BD 15,080, whereby Tamkeen pays BD 7,540 of the total cost while the trainee will bear the remainder” P < added. he>
Tamkeen’s VP for Enterprise and Human Capital Development also said that the programme comes to fill one of the local and regional market gaps, especially with the increasing demand by airline companies for skilled labour in these advanced technical specialisations.
He also explained that the programme, which will last for 8 weeks, is scheduled to include 65 Bahraini pilots, and targets securing employment for junior pilots who currently have no Aircraft type rating, with airlines in the Gulf region.
On the other hand, the CEO of GAA, Mr. Tim Shattock, stressed the importance of the fertile cooperation with Tamkeen in qualifying and training Bahraini pilots to be the employees of choice in this field at the local and regional levels. He pointed out the significance of this training in meeting the ongoing needs and the increasing demand for these specialisations, especially with the growth of the aviation industry in the MENA region.
Engineer Mahmood Al Balooshi, the Chief Operations Officer at GAA, commented that the Academy has the state of the art theoretical and practical training means. We hope that the agreement with Tamkeen would pave the way to further cooperation, as we are confident that the Bahraini pilots will be a source for meeting current needs in this sector in various Gulf countries. We also thank Tamkeen for its support and awareness of the need to invest in Bahraini human capital, and for the provision of knowledge and expertise with the view of producing creative and distinguished Bahrainis in this vital field."

ironbutt57 16th Apr 2011 14:44

Actually Mephistopheles, QR did in fact recruit some GAA potentials, not sure of the details, but in fact no requirement to be a Qatari national, GCC seems to be acceptable..

Che Guevara 16th Apr 2011 18:01

Heard they were not too impressed with the Jordan 'graduates'.

WELCO 20th Apr 2011 12:01


QR did in fact recruit some GAA potentials

Well.. None of GAA cadets has earned the license yet, however it's expected that some might get hired by QA. Keep in mind that the demand in GF COULD be above normal for a reason!



Heard they were not too impressed with the Jordan 'graduates'

Very true indeed.

Mike.Park 28th Apr 2011 15:32

Bahraini trainee pilots suspended
 
Bahraini trainee pilots suspended from UK flying school after attending protests

Oxford Aviation Academy cancels lessons after request from the regime, which wants students to return home for questioning.

A leading British flying school has suspended seven trainee airline pilots from Bahrain after they attended a peaceful demonstration in London against their government's violent crackdown on dissent.

Full article here

z.khalid 1st Jun 2011 11:45

Does anyone have any idea when the Oxford Assessment (for second officers) is going to be done at GAA?
People have been waiting on this for months now.

Radar Contact 7th Sep 2011 10:29

Any news about the upcoming batches?

I heard they will be sent to FTEJerez or Ireland.


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