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Bahrain AirShow 2010
Bahrain wants to make a name for itself within the airshow arena come 2010 it would seem. This fresh out of Farnborough.
I'd say attracting 40,000 visitors is a slightly optimistic (unrealistic?) figure considering the Dubai AirShow pulled in just over 45k punters last year. Certainly a step in the right direction for Bahrain though. |
So where exactly are they going to park all the planes? Can the country (and GF) afford to have the airport closed while the airshow is going on (unless they intend to use the military airport)
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Space
Good question. The capacity at OBBI is rather limited.. Where would they house their indoor airconditioned exhibits & pavilions? I can't think of any large enclosed areas at the airport. Then you've got your outdoor static displays, flying display, chalet units etc.. plus 40k human bodies :}
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They could use the airfield down by the F1 circuit. It has a good runway and there would plenty of room for parking aircraft. The F1 track would provide good options for hospitality etc, and plenty of parking as well.
That said I am very sceptical of the whole thing. |
Bahrain is a group of tiny islands, yes, but that is not an excuse that the country can’t make an air show. Singapore, congested country with (707 Km2) is larger than Bahrain (665 Km2) by few square kilo meter and did a great air show last February.
Indeed it is a step in the right direction |
Sounds to me like a typical case of trying to keep up with the Jones/ Sheiks
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What about sheikh Isa base?? Seems to be the best option.
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I think you are spot on Gypsy, however we don't have an indoor ski slope yet....or the Louvre ;)
Chao |
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Singapore, congested country with (707 Km2) is larger than Bahrain (665 Km2) Singapore has a thriving and diverse aviation industry. Does Bahrain? |
Not yet!
But you can bet someone is working on it...back in 1972 the "Experts" said.... Only one VC10 service a week would support all the Gulf traffic to London...Bahrain thought differently and went ahead with Gulf Air in 1974 look at the traffic and all the airlines flying up to the UK today. |
Well the experts weren't totally wrong as most of the traffic going through the Gulf States airports is transfer traffic, probably a 75/25 mix in favour of transfer pax.
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I am very objectives when dealing with facts and figures; Classifying countries being fit or unfit for high-net worth projects based on a single reason is a narrow-minded mentality. I prefer to examine the big picture in terms of diverse factors without any bias to anyone including Shaiks. Claiming that I try to ‘keep up to Jones / Shaiks” is a cheap communication option of weak people when failing to argue politely and logically, because bankrupts do not have anything to convince except nothing. (I do have enough criticism to Shaiks and I never behave like a trumpet in my life)
When Bahrain government signed a contract for an air show, it knows very well it has to meet all requirements. Alike of formula 1, lots of hassle and nonsense came by, and the country proved it subsequently able to sustain every year. Now, Are we talking here about the area needed or the level of aviation industry in a country? Saying that a country must have a thriving and diverse aviation as pre-requisites to make an air show is completely absurd argument and nonsense. Countries may use other sources of strength / reputations they enjoy to leverage their presence and attract investments with view to current resources (and in case of Bahrain as Banking & Financial Centre of the Middle East). And as far as the landmass is concerned, Dubai’s landmass is different from Singapore’s too and did several air shows too. I am ready to give list of names if you are interested. Some people here has to try krill oil !! |
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and in case of Bahrain as Banking & Financial Centre of the Middle East |
Again I deal with some people who are narrow-minded and have extreme low exposure and thinking ability. You switched from air show case to banking. You came across my speciality and I have to make a response as a Banker. à There are several index published in terms of best financial institutions and I can supply many for your review and selection where the credibility of these report is often questionable. This reminds me of the hospitals and medications case in North America. à While I acknowledge Dubai is a commercial world centre and has relatively more global exposure than Bahrain, it is not an advanced financial centre. In an evidence to that, best stock exchange in the Gulf is in Kuwait, not Dubai. Moreover, there are more banks operating in Bahrain (embracing all types) than in Dubai. In fact, while Bahrain continues to grance licenses to foreign banks to operate in the country, Dubai does not, because authorities there consider Dubai banking system is saturated. (again monopoly to leverage empower banks alike of Emirates monopoly policies). Please read local press today, Bahrain announced granting a permit for an offshore Italian Bank to operate in the country. That of course due to the continuous process of reforms started more than 50 years that is able to attract financial institutions strongly, not the case in Dubai banking system. à In terms of competence, Dubai is one of best global centres of money laundering and as much as 70% of cash flow comes from that process because of poor legislation and systems. To detail, Bahrain which managed to establish first internet banking in the Gulf (in fact even first internet access in the Gulf) has legislation for anti-money laundering since 1970s. On contrary, Dubai just introduced the legislations in the end of 2003 after heavy criticism that all funding of 11 September terrorists came from banks in Dubai (not from Abu Dhabi, Al-ain, .etc specifically Dubai; please watch aljazeera award wining documentary and read reports of Newsweek and Times magazines) !! à Successful banks always have excellent outputs, I have two personal contacts of professionals Bahraini bankers headhunted as CEOs in 2 European banks, one is based in Stockholm, Sweden and another in Zurich, Switzerland. I wonder who manage banks in Dubai! à There are many amazing stories about Dubai's banking and financial system such as Dubai sovereign funds which operate partially on political grounds to make financial gains, alike of the one operated by Kuwait. (An American independent body for monitoring souvenir funds ranked both Dubai and Kuwait as inefficient in control and surveillance few weeks ago). à When Dubai financial system is poor in basics, it makes wonder about the claim that Dubai has achieved rank 15. It must be -15 à To be very objective, there are many negative aspects that Bahrain needs to change. Middle East Economist Intelligence Unit in UK ( well-know and trusted consultancy body) said a year ago in a report that Bahrain has an advance banking and financial system and aluminium smelter (ALBA) that compete with American and European Banks, but at the same time, it has a backward construction and manufacturing sector that compete with Bangladesh, Pakistan, .etc and needs comprehensive reforms" I feel a bit amazed of some expatriates living and working in Bahrain and showing contempt to the country and I don't know. I am not against any expatriates, they are very welcome but there is Lebanese say" bedee meno tefo alaih' Try to clear your grudges. |
What's wrong with an airshow in Bahrain and if they need to build a new facility there is lots of land south of the island that is just barren.
I agree with Shazar that you need to think beyond the 'keeping up with the jones/sheikhs'. Perhaps they will build a new runway and facility and then use it as a cadet pilot training base? Makes sense when you have neighbours ordering 100s of jet and it needs pilots so why not position Bahrain as the home of gulf/ME cadet training? Oh, perhaps we may get a nice beach to watch the airshow from?:) |
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What's wrong with an airshow in Bahrain Perhaps they will build a new runway and facility and then use it as a cadet pilot training base? None of Bahrain's educational establishments offer air transport/aerospace training courses or qualifications. Why? supply & demand. If Bahrain wants to make a name for itself within the aviation industry today, it's got to reform its national aviation authority and set the stage. At the moment, it's nothing more than a side dish. I can supply many for your review and selection where the credibility of these report is often questionable. |
Guys, it seems that we are all narrow minded here, except for one genius guy among us, its great to have him among us :cool:
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let them have a go of it. there is no point in ridiculing ambitious undertakings, especially if you're an expat. big projects create jobs for them too. let the results speak for themselves.
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Maybe this thread will get dug up again in 2 years time :}
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shazar
I am confused. In May 2008 on another thread you said you were in HR. Now you are telling us you are a Banker. Which is it then?? As for people who are narrow minded you are living in an area renowned for such a trait. Running a Formula 1 event is simply a matter of doing what Bernie Eccleston wants. Totally different to an Airshow which costs a small fortune for exhibitors who need to be sure that it is worth their while. Time will tell on that one. Putting on an Airshow is not a simple matter of whether there is room. As Aero rightly said Bahrain does not have an Aerospace industry. It also does not have the varied economy that Singapore has, nor the population. I have lived and worked in Kuwait,Bahrain and Singapore and if I was an exhibitor I would not be interested in Bahrain compared to Dubai or Singapore. |
Mr Thegyepsy
Thank you, you don’t to be confused. I do, I am a banker and HR professional. I started working as a banker and moved to HR after spending many years in core-banking positions to address relevant projects. I am happy as an HR professional and an active pivotal member in internal banking committees; both areas trained me to be well-balanced in making any opinion. I hope this clarifies your confusion, though I don't think I have an obligation to disclose my professional background and prefer to keep it to myself. Now, if you think that Bahrain doesn’t have the ability to do an air show, I think “If you have a will, there is away”. This is a challenge for Bahrain government to prove itself and use all options to achieve its ambitions either through sourcing or outsourcing, unless they have to think in one direction! (contracting agencies, experts, .etc whatever they have in mind). This is a valuable opportunity to attract investment and creates jobs for locals. A weak would consider high-net worth projects impossible; a strong one would snatch them and employs them and progress forward without limit. The million journey starts with a step and the first step is the will. Separate to above, when I quoted the word ‘narrow-minded’ and ‘low exposure’ I made it clear that ‘SOME’ and I did not generalise, contrary to your input. I listed many facts about Dubai’s financial system and there were no single refutable opinion about monopoly policies, money laundering, lack of transparency in sovereign funds, .etc (in fact UAE officials acknowledge these facts and I am ready to add more to the list). I was even very objective towards Bahrain and talked about the negative side of its economy. I can elaborate further if you would like, but I don’t think this forum is intended for debating economic conditions. Thank you |
Airshow
Dubai Airshow's new website has just gone live and it's looking very slick! :ok:
www.DubaiAirshow.aero I love the way it's not dripping with 'national pride' :} Bahrain Airshow certainly has it's work cut out! |
Just some updated info for those that are interested.
The confirmed dates for the Bahrain Airshow are in. The Bahrain Airshow takes place 2 months after the Dubai Airshow. Dates: 21-23 January 2010 Location: Sakhir Airbase Tickets: By invitation only (according to the info on the pdf) Official website: Farnborough |
I remember the run up to the first Grand Prix and the construction of the international circuit, which was not 'simply a matter of' doing what
Ecclestone wanted, particularly when the date was brought forward by a few months. Some expats were constantly going on about it, predicting an unfinished circuit, traffic chaos, total cock ups etc. It actually went very well and continues to be a success. They were wrong. Before some people repeat their mistakes, I suspect the Air Show may be aimed at industry, not the general public. And can I remind you all of the undoubted fiasco that was the tax-payer funded Millenium Dome in London on New Year's Eve 1999? If you want an expensive cock-up to go off without a hitch, get us Brits in. We're really rather good at it. So, on a positive note, why not hope the airshow is a success for a country in which some of us have chosen to live? We are all interested in aviation and presumably welcome success wherever it occurs. After all, it's unlikely they'll cancel the airshow in Bahrain because the car park is too wet. No wait! That happened at Fairford (UK) International Air Tattoo where tens of thousands were turned away. Got a refund though, which was nice.;) |
Wishful thinking Monty. Let's hope it is successful!
As for timing... 2 months after the Dubai Airshow?? |
Probably for the same reason that all Northern Hemisphere air shows are held in summer: the weather. Just because Paris/Farnborough are in July/August, would you shift Fairford to a more fashionable November? Thought not, because then you'd have to seriously think about car parks.
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Mike
I just got an email info from the Farnborough people that indicates the show will be at the new Sakhir airport next to the International Circuit. Makes sense as there are no mil units there (yet), the highway to there is almost finished and there's plenty of facilities for corporate hostility at the circuit. Where did you get the Shaik Isa info? Just out of interest. |
Where did you get the Shaik Isa info? Any chance you PMing me directions? |
Shaikha Isa Airbase is Sakhir Airbase.
I got my invitation ! :-) |
If they used bloomin ICAO designators there wouldn't be any confusion!
Right then - OBBS it is! |
Do not forget to live life to the full and take your camera and take some pictures...and maybe get arrested?
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take some pictures...and maybe get arrested |
Mike
The Sakhir airport is no secret. 12,000 ft runway overlooked by the Hamad Town escarpment and next to the Formula One Circuit. Hangar big enough for anything but an A380. If you look on google earth you can see the old 6000 ft runway which is now a taxiway. No ICAO designator yet because it's private for the moment. Big white crosses on both ends of the runway but an ILS calibrator was whizzing about a few months ago. Sakhir? Shaik Isa? Jumble up the letters and you can take your pick. Believe it when you see it. :) |
Satellite photo of the Bahrain archipelago taken in September 2008...big file, but Sakhir airfield (with parallel taxiway) can clearly be seen.
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7...008copymu8.jpg |
New airfield
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AIR SHOW IS A SELL-OUT!
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/sourc...es/t_Lpic1.jpg MANAMA: Demand for space at Bahrain's first international air show has been so overwhelming that organisers had to reject approaches from additional companies hoping to take part, it emerged yesterday. A total of 40 organisations working in business, defence and commercial aviation were offered the chance to participate in the Bahrain International Air Show (BIAS) 2010, but Bahrain Mumtalakat Holding Company chairman Talal Alzain revealed it could have been more. "The 40 exclusive business chalets for the event have been sold out for quite a while and on top of that, there was also a substantial demand for more," he told a Press conference yesterday. The show gets underway Thursday at the Sakhir Airbase from 9am and runs until Saturday. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/56/16...24922135_b.jpg |
10,000 expected at Air Show opening
By TOM HANRATTY, Posted on » Thursday, January 21, 2010 MANAMA: More than 10,000 people are expected to descend on Sakhir Airbase this morning for the opening of the first Bahrain International Air Show. That includes more than 2,000 specially invited corporate guests and a host of international delegations. The 5,000 public tickets made available for tomorrow have already sold out, but about half of the tickets for today and Saturday are still available, according to organisers. The event will feature three days of air displays by a range of aircraft, as well as a raft of family entertainment in the public area, and is being held under the patronage of His Majesty King Hamad His Royal Highness Prince Salman bin Hamad Al Khalifa, Crown Prince and Economic Development Board chairman, has urged EDB members to exert all efforts to support the air show's supreme organising committee, led by Southern Governor Shaikh Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa. This aims to make the show's first edition successful in consolidating Bahrain's renowned reputation in hosting international exhibitions and successful business meetings, EDB executive director Shaikh Mohammed bin Isa Al Khalifa said yesterday. http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/source/XXXII/307/pdf/page06.pdf Family fun at air show A RAFT of family entertainment has been lined up over the next three days as Bahrain makes its debut on the international air show scene. Organisers of the three-day Bahrain International Air Show 2010 have teamed up with Adhari Park to keep visitors of all ages happy with amusements such as river rides, mini jets and go-karts, magic shows, hip-hop shows, firework displays and competitions each of the three days. A special Heritage Park has also been created to give visitors the opportunity to explore local arts, crafts, music and customs. However, it is the spectacular flying and aerobatic displays that are expected to generate most interest. Kicking off at 1.30pm each day, the displays include some of the world's most decorated teams and pilots, including the Royal Bahrain Air Force Display Team, the French Air Force Display Team, the Saudi Hawks Aerobatic Display Team and solo pilot Mark Jefferies. Crowds of up to 10,000 people are expected to descend on the Sakhir Airbase this morning for the official opening of the show at 11am. Chief among them will be His Majesty King Hamad, under whose patronage the event is taking place. However, people can head down to the venue earlier and the doors will open on all three days from 10am to 5.30pm. Among those at the opening will be more than 2,000 specially invited corporate guests and a host of international delegations. Culture and Information Minister Shaikha Mai bint Mohammed Al Khalifa yesterday toured the media centre and heritage village at BIAS accompanied by assistant under-secretary for Civil Aviation Affairs Captain Abdulrahman Al Gaoud and hailed the preparations. She was briefed on the preparations by Bahrain Royal Air Force media committee head Lt Colonel Abdullah bin Mohammed Al Nuaimi and the organisational committee media head Yousef Mahmoud. Organised by Farnborough International Limited (FIL) and Civil Aviation Affairs for the Kingdom of Bahrain (CAA), 40 luxury business chalets at the venue have been snapped up by some of the biggest names in aviation. Participating companies will be afforded exclusive one-on-one opportunities to showcase products and services to potential buyers, visiting delegations, the media, trade partners and public visitors. Among those taking part in the show are Airbus, Gulf Air, TAG Aeronautics, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Bell Helicopter Textron Inc, Gulf Aviation Technologies, Bahrain Air and SELEX Sistemi Integrati. Participation at the event is costing each company $155,000 (BD58,590) - including catering, an executive car, access to the VIP pavilion and aircraft parking space, if required. However, the show is expected to be significantly different from any other aerospace event in the Middle East. Tickets for the public event cost BD7 for adults and BD3 for children aged under 15 and are available at Batelco stores in Seef Mall, Bahrain City Centre and Bahrain International Airport; by calling the ticket hotline on 8000 8181; or by visiting Bahrain International Airshow - Welcome. People visiting BIAS 2010 today are advised to park at the Bahrain International Circuit, from where they will be shuttled by bus to the adjacent air show venue. |
Out of the 40 chalets it's not so many major aviation related companies attending the event. First edition, just after the Dubai Airshow isn't a very attractive package. It's getting boring to have foreign companies organizing events every 3 months and I don't think the industry has so much money to spend in useless marketing gifts.
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Once the circus has moved on, whats the Sakhir airfield going to be used for?
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Rolling Thunder
The F16 and F18 plus Rafaele put on a thundering good display, the SU27
was a bit of a disapointment, all the other formation displays were nicely flown. The Sakir base will be home to the Royal flight, and the next airshow is penciled in for 2012:ok: |
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