Emirates Hold Pool
 

hi folks

been told im in the holding pool..does any one have an idea how long this could probably be..or an idea on what sgoing on regarding future courses especially this year

thanks...

Im in the same boat with the holding pool. I have a class date with Qatar and kind of worried. I would hate to give up Qatar for a promise from Emirates and end up with nothing.

aapa,
Is this pool for a training class? When did you interview? I interviewed in early June and haven't heard this news yet. Thanks

Another one here in the pool.

Interviewed the last week of May. One guy who had a 2 week notice period has a class date at the end of September. Myself and another got the pool email, I'm on a months notice and he's on 3 months.

It was a relief to hear something but now I'm wondering if it's going to be a case of first in, first out. Or are they going to pick and choose??

help we need urgent info.....what does this mean hold pool has emirates done this before in the past i was interv. early may

Please calm down everyone. The demand here in EK for pilots is still huge!! The situation is that with the 777s delayed for a bit means that most of the training has been put onto the Airbus and there simply aren't the resources to cope with the numbers of student pilots. If you passed the interview you will get the job (I am sure), it is just a case of be patient until we can take you in as things are busy right now. I am in training and can tell you that with well over a hundered jets on order, we aren't going to be looking at layoffs, EK needs all the good people it can get. If EK is your choice, stay with it and time will go fast enough and you will be here. Ek has the money, attitude and ability to get through any downturn in aviation. I have been in aviation 24 years and these guys will be the last standing if airlines go bust.

See you soon in the pit.

JS

To answer aapa's question:
The holding pool concept is nothing new with Emirates so don't worry.

thanks chap

greatly appreciated.....things here in the uk don't look to good..

Stop being bitter please Brokenenglish and live in the real world. You should apply and get the invite before you give up your old job, so any out of work situation will be your doing (if that becomes the case). Besides the fact of the current global downturn, EK tickets I am sure will be competitively priced if it needs be AND you don't seem to realise that we are not just a charter/holiday passenger airline. There are the holiday makers, a lot of business people and a WHOLE LOT of near Asians who we move around the world. Along with that, the route structure and many other factors keep EK in a very competitive situation in any forecast downturn.

Stay cool, and blame the oil speculators and the lending banks for the mess of the global financial downturn, not airline recruiters, besides, the training and recruitment is still in place and there is not even a whisper of a rumour of freezing the training or such like.

I shall say no more on this thread!

I very rarely post on this website! But I have been in Ek for over five years and I would like to back up what Jack has said! I have 100% confidence in the airline management to weather this latest crisis!

During SARS for example we increased belly cargo loads to offset the lack of passengers and thus flight costs were more than covered!

I also personally believe by keeping up the expansion through this down turn EK will be extremely strong when the world economy recovers!

You're right CRS - if the expansion goes on then EK will dominate when things start looking up...
All my recent flights are over 95% load factors, with lots of cargo down below...

jack schidt
 

Thanks Jack,

for your encouraging words.

Sometimes for no apparent reason doing nothing or if you want to put it in other words "be patient" seems to be the most difficult habbit to develop.

But it will pay off not only this time.
Damn sure.

Keep us informed+updated with your insights. Say more please...


ocala

thanks js
 

it's good to hear a bit of sanity on this site...I'm in the pool and just wating for the news...take care all , hope for the best.:ok:

From the recruitment manager directly; all classes as of right now are full through the end of the year and there are only 40 openings through the end of the fiscal year which is end of March. Obviously that can change but that is where EK stands as of two days ago.
Seems they did a good job with selling Emirates to the commuter pilots in the states because that is the bulk of the classes. Pilots getting furloughed in the states now will have to wait awhile before coming but hopefully everything will turn around by then and maybe they won't get laid off.

If there are only 40 openings in till the end of march why havent the guys being put in a holding pool been assinged one of those openings. Why is EK still interviewing and getting all our hopes up. Are we gonna be on standby just in case the regional guys dont show up or are they waiting to see if they can get "better" candidates. If you could ask the recruiting manager that question that would be great.

Any news on the hold pool. Has anyone been pulled out or advised a possible class date. is there any specific order people will be pulled out of the pool or will it be handpicked.
Thanks

bustrash,

to have a confirm qatar offer and waiting for a ek standby is a hard thing...personally will go for the confirm one but at the end of the day its your choice and how much you want to join ek


I heard from a ek insider that all courses are filled up till march 2009.

They are giving start date to guys based on points scored on in the interview.

which means this they are calling guys who did very well first and putting guys who just passed in a pool.

I dont know mate this is what i heard....could anyone confirm this??

I was told they have suspended flight deck recruitment as a way of reducing costs. The fuel price is hurting and the only way to turn a profit is to get guys to work harder.

Got an email from HR this morning;

Classes are indeed filled up for the rest of the calender year and those in the pool should expect a class date in the first quarter '08. :mad:

Not sure about a points system, though.

out of the pool??
 

hi guys
anybody's got out of the holding pool??

I'm still waiting!!:{

Still waiting
 

I interviewed mid June. Received e-mail from EK HR in July. Last thing I heard from them. Still waiting. All the best.

PB&J

Recruitment Update-
Even though the word has spread that we are taking a break from pilot recruitment, the number of applications are still quite high.
We expect a decision on when we will recommence pilot recruitment for Emirates in the next week or two.
Many of our pilots have recommended former colleagues to us. Thank you, this is highly appreciated and strongly encouraged.

last word guys on recruitment !!;)

Would you guys/gals in the Emirates Hold Pool who interviewed this year mind sharing what experience you have/had?

Minimums on the website are one thing, but with the excess of crews at the moment it would be nice to know just what sort of experience the successful 'Emirates wannabees' have.

Cheers,

SSS

re peebee and jay
 

attended the mid may interview and there are 5 from our group in the pool , everyone's got the same mail....first quarter of 2009... all the best to pool swimmers....:ok:
masalama.

Hi SSS

I interviewed in feb and have started with EK now, to answer your question the least experienced guy in my group had 4300 hrs !.. myself, 5000 with heavy airbus time .. EK wont even entertain you with anything less than 4000and i think minimum of 2500 hrs jet ... I expect with the layoffs in europe and US, its even more competitive now ..

Best of luck..

Max

Cheers Max. That helps a lot!

SSS

I was told by EK Recruitment that succesful candidate status is valid for 1 YEAR ONLY (waiting pool purposes included). The clock begins to tick the last day of the succesful interview. After a year passes, the candidate MUST interview again.

Does anybody here knows what exactly the pool candidate is supposed to do before the year passes and thus his succesful candidate "membership" expires?

Some suggest to get assigned a class date?

Others suggest that by expiration date the candidate must have started training? (case in which some of us would be in danger of loosing the succesful status if we don't get called prior to expiration date, especially those of us who interviewed in 1Q 2008)

Anyone?

Mike,

My man on the inside at EK says he asked an HR contact about the year expiration and the current delays with course dates for the poolies. Apparently it's been discussed within HR and the general consensus at the moment is that a lot of time, effort and $$ were put into the poolies. Therefore, the 12 months will be probably be waived. However, how long you get over the 12 months is anyone's guess....1 month, 2, etc.

My clock has 8 months to run but if we end up talking about an Apr/May course date, it'll be bloody close.

Recruitment is starting up again in 1-2 weeks.... from the latest newsletter

No Fartmaster, recruitment will not start in 1-2 weeks, but the decision will be made within 1-2 weeks on when to re-start the recruitment.

The recruitment team feel that the recruitment should carry-on, at a reduced rate, so that when the Boeing factory strike ends and Airbus get those Fantastique Plastiques moving, we will not be caught short. The Flight-ops recruitment team are trying to motivate the HR recruitment team to understand that pilots are unlike ground-dwellers, but it is a bit of an uphill battle, it's all about perceptions.

To all in the pool, the 12 month limits will be individually assessed, so just keep you Recuitment contact updated as to your hours and types, and so long as you are working you should (not guaranteed, but should) get a few months stretch to the limit.

Good luck all, at least by the time you get here you'll be able to move directly into your villas!

everybody still swimming??
 

Hi guys,
does any swimmer got out of the pool?any news?first quarter of 2009 is coming but no news from me!!!!

bye

Nope, not here, but anxiously awaiting the call as is everyone else. Was told in a Sept email to expect news by the end of the calendar year. Have been patiently waiting since June.

also still waiting patiently, told "towards the end of the year the will contact", so hopefully that means this month sometime and not January--does anyone know how the courses will be allocated, as far your interview date, or age, or how well you did in your interview? keep kicking those feet and try to stay afloat guys :E

Good question brewman. Don't know the answer to that one. There is certainly enough speculation. Obviously it will be need-based. It would appear however, that people will mostly stay with the manufacturer. That is prior Boeing pilots seem to have been placed on Boeing and Airbus personnel on Airbus. Other, whatever is needed. Like everybody else I had heard the rumors about a point system. I am not sure if it is true or not, but in either event it is a moot point now. Fairly certain seems however, that the January class is full. I just hope there won't be any major fall-out from the impact of the financial crisis on Dubai for Emirates. Their succuss appears interdependent. Talk to you later. Bavarian.

Guys,

I posted on another thread a while back, that apparently of those in the holding pool, there are 3 groups:

Those that are typed (I took this to refer to guys that have Airbus/Boeing time).

Those that are not typed but have a wealth of experience and scored highly throughout the selection process. Not sure what amount of time would be needed to be included in this group.

And the rest.

All the information came from a good mate of mine who's next door neighbour is in HR. Whether EK still intends to assign course dates based on this criteria is anyone's guess but at this stage, I think all any of us can do is just wait and see.

Personally, I think the first of the poolies to be called for course dates will either hear this month or at the beginning of Jan. They've got the A310 guys going through 777 courses in Jan, so the first available dates would be in Feb.

Good info, Kenny. Thanks. When were you interviewed?

End of May.

Same here. Just read on AIR INC that EK hired 3 in Nov and 5 in Dec. Suppose that we're talking DECs or successful interviewees that have joined the "pool."

If that article in Air Inc is the same Air Inc run by Kit Darby, I wouldn't believe a word that's written in it. The man has his head so far up his @rse, it's not funny.

I know of an ex-Frontier guy that was supposed be on a Nov course, that was CX'd. I suppose they could have been DEC's or guys that had problems with their refs.

Yes perhaps. I just hope that we will be contacted soon. Emirates has good protocol and follow up. So I do expect that we will hear something very soon. I am also curious to see if changes will be made to our contract in light of possible measures to reduce overhead.