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brassplate 7th May 2008 00:08

hear ye, hear ye, hear ye.....
ey is terrible. ts and cs are terrible. crews overworked and lied to. f/as are abused. housing may as well be in tents in the deserts. promises are broken. run by showboating jhogans thieves. f/os are lowest paid in the region. captains not far behind. office staff hate flight crews. annus horriblus last year and will continue this year. bonuses for sports sponsorships only not crew. evacuate evacuate evacuate.

Axum 11th May 2008 12:43

If the situation is so bad, why I can't see thread about etihad exodus?

How long would they bond me as A-330/340 F/o?
Do they fly 330/340 with two pilots or three?
Can I expect company ticket to EU?

allaru 12th May 2008 03:10

crewing for middle eastern airlines
 
"Do they fly 330/340 with two pilots or three?"

Actually its 6:

Captain:
He's in charge

First Officer:
He's next in charge

Second Officer:
The Captains sexual adviser, if I want his #%cking opinion I'll ask for it

Flight Engineer:
Useful for manipulating those big bakalite knobs on the 330/340, doing the walk around, syncing the fans, and finding cheap bars and knock shops

Navigator:
Helps navigating to the above venues, and does sailings, plotting, and other navigator stuff on big charts.

Radio Operator:
Warms the valves before the rest of the crew arrive, Talks to Bombay on HF, and operates the directional antenna during NDB approaches.

This is standard for all 330/340 flights up to 8 hours, of course we get an extra pilot for flights above 8, as well as a bunk, and an F or J class seat.

camelbreath 12th May 2008 06:25

You get a bunk and a F/J seat on a 330....Hmmmm:=

Not in EY!

brassplate 15th May 2008 16:46

not happy at ey?
 
topic speaks for itself. and the moderator keeps removing it. mr moderator, please pm me for the reasons as to why you keep doing this. on the take are you?
before any pilot moves there, they need to make an informed decision before taking the plunge. if you are against this, then i accuse you of being anti-pilot.

Sal-e 15th May 2008 17:05

Ouch brassy. Some accusation. I can't imagine that ever taking place (corporate interest in our infallible moderators).
I don't think I have any friends who have enjoyed the move from GF to EY, but they are not willing to openly admit it since I tried to talk them out of it. Not to say some are not enjoying it there. I know a lot of the cabin crew are.

alghazal 15th May 2008 17:15

Who could ?

People stay 4 months in an hotel then are moved to a villa and then told it will cost them 90000 AED per year to keep the so called company provided accomodation.

Inflation is skyrocketting, medical is useless, no pension, and HR treat you like a dog.

Welcome to Etihad

brassplate 15th May 2008 17:46

there was an exodus of gf drivers not long ago. one of the main reasons for their departure was better prospects for upgrade for the f/os and better machines and destinations for the captains. are they getting what they want?

brassplate 15th May 2008 17:58

in addition to this obviously important thread, i'm working on a conspiracy theory.
if you notice all the important threads regarding employment ts and cs in this forum, they are usually followed by several petty threads made by irregular posters ie guys with 10 or so posts.
obviously management types read pprune. i wonder if they purposefully raise new threads in order to push the ones important to us down the list and hopefully to page 2.
maybe i'm paranoid, but look at the topics posted yourself. there is usually one with a lot of responses (ie important issues) followed by three or four topics with very little response.

back to topic, how many here are happy with their terms and conditions and promises at ey?

brassplate 15th May 2008 20:21

another tactic these 'single posters' incessantly use is to make a petty comment in popular threads to push 'hot issues' further down the list.

ironbutt57 16th May 2008 05:02

Brassy...don't think you will ever get a straight answer on that one...the fellows who left for EK have spoken openly about the pro's and con's regarding their move there, and seem for the most part content with their choice..whatever "turns your clock" I suppose applies in all cases:ok:

vector3 16th May 2008 11:12

773
 
Im invited for screening as a fo on 773 in July,but after reading all this i'll think i'm gonna stick to my job here in europe...

alghazal 16th May 2008 17:03

Who cares how many aircrafts they order, how muck bribe money they make in the back of the locals.....

What does it change to your day to day life ....??

Well, nothing, this management remains as it is, useless, indian lowcost alike, no offense taken, our indian fellow colleagues, and hopeless.

EY is S:mad:t and will remain as such.

Join here and your life and family will be jeopardized every 6 months r so by our puppet management and on purpose.
They all come together everyweek to lagh at us on how much they screwed our lives....

PAYBACK TIME

Axum 16th May 2008 20:46

"Think twice, they are few others company around that would give you a better consideration."

Tell me one, pls.

Togalk 17th May 2008 07:21

"Think twice, they are few others company around that would give you a better consideration."

I think he meant to say "There are A few.........

Emirates,
Singapore,
Korean,
Jet,
Kingfisher...............

alghazal 17th May 2008 09:06

Even low cost carriers treat you better

Air Arabia
EZY
Tiger
Air Asia
Vueling
WizzAIr
RyanAir

or flag carriers , whereas EY is supposed to be one, at the end this is another **** carrier for its employees.

Air China
China Airlines
Korean Air
Air France is hiring on A320
Lufthansa
Singapore Airlines
Air Mauritius


or other succesfull airlines

Virgin
Strategic in Australia
Air Asia X
China Southern
Hainan on A320
Deer Air on A320
Kingfisher
Jet
Sri Lankan
Virgin Nigeria
Atlas Blue

Before coming to Non stop lying Award winning Airline ETIHAD, reconsider and read all these threads about how bad it is for you and your family.

Axum 17th May 2008 12:06

Let's see :

Emirates - not easy to join, require min. 4000 hours for F/O
Singapore - don't hire F/O
Korean - too far from Europe, I mean not just km
Jet, Kingfisher - would you take your family to India?
LCC's - no money paid
Air China, China Airlines, China Southern, Hainan - liars
Air France, Lufthansa - need JAA licence, upgrade in 10 years
Air Mauritius, Sri Lankan - pilots exodus

So it is not easy to choose.

Axum 17th May 2008 12:13

Additional info about China :
Once you step foot in a Chinese airline you will find it VERY difficult to leave. Going to another Chinese airline is near impossible. There is a HUGE penalty if one hops from one Chinese airline to another within China - more than a million rmb. And if you want to leave China for another foreign airline you will face extreme difficulties. So be forewarned ...

Axum 17th May 2008 13:08

Furthermore :

Air Arabia - need only type rated pilots
Tiger - self-sponsored
EZY, Wizz - don't hire in 2008
Vueling - need JAA + self-sponsored

Easy Ryder 17th May 2008 14:03

Axum,

Id take my family to India. On the money you'd live like a king and will be able to provide them with the best.

Sorry but I hate prejudice statements that harpoon an entire nation.


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