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bus787 11th Dec 2007 13:09

Gf Crm Arrogance
 
Rumours that recent Upgraded Commander was shouting at a TRE in ops.
Local Capt was arrogant enough to say that he still managed to get his four bars whatever the TRE's think about him.

Well done man.Very good CRM.Another weapon in the air.

MY COUNTRY MY AIRLINE.!!!

ironbutt57 11th Dec 2007 13:17

Just to clarify, "bus" isn't referring to the chap on the poster..you couldnt find a nicer bloke than the chap pictured on the poster board:ok:

salahabuali 11th Dec 2007 17:16

GF 72 here we come!

B. Bonga 11th Dec 2007 19:12

This is all handbags, especially if it's a rumour. Lest you witnessed this particular occurrence first hand, posting it on Pprune for all sundry to have a dig at GF is immature.............go get sumthing to keep you warm this winter dude than rumour mongering......:p

brassplate 11th Dec 2007 19:23

a coupla instructors maybe need to polish their art of 'instructing' and human skills more. but i think all of them are quite good.

FlyingSpanner 12th Dec 2007 01:16

B. Bonga
 
Just a question. What exactly is this forum if not a RUMOUR forum?

PPRuNe!

Spanner!!!! :ok:

bus787 12th Dec 2007 01:21

Pprune
 
BONGA go check what PPRUNE means.than talk.
ANd just for info I can now confirm it is TRUE........
So actually should be now transferred to GDN. as it is not anymore a RUMOUR but a FACT.
MY Country MY Airline ............continue the sentence!!

ironbutt57 12th Dec 2007 02:05

Don't associate this occurrence with "my country my airline" seen a couple good CRM gaffes from expats from the back seat of the sim myself as well...:ok:

brassplate 12th Dec 2007 03:14

a little off-topic...that new poster featuring one pilot does not really qualify in my books as a good marketing strategy, especially with the slogan 'my country, my airline' (unless it was designed to spur the thousands of locals to fly THEIR airline). maybe they should concentrate their marketing budget regionally, and without using that patriotic piece. i mean what would make anyone want to fly gf on that note alone? with the meagre funds i seem to think they have on marketing, maybe they should be a bit more shrewd in attracting new business with it (no offence to the mentioned goatied young chap). personally, young buxom belles clad in figure-hugging, undersized uniforms does it for me.:}

Chuck Y 12th Dec 2007 06:05

The GDN Gf ad was just to make certain high up people happy, it was not done for marketing at all.
Reagarding the shouting in ops. Well we have some local & expats that raise there voices far too much. It's not exclusive to one bunch or the other.

deplanedeplane 12th Dec 2007 11:04

MY Country MY Airline
 
If its their Country Their Airline, why are all the expats to blame for all the problems, why are all the expats getting arrested, why everytime a new expat starts he gets blamed for the old problems?

MY Country MY Airline, my problem, blame me, chuck me in jail, no more problems.:rolleyes: SORTED.:E

Not too small 12th Dec 2007 11:25

Problems
 
If GF has this much problems within the crew that means that the management are week or we dont have any.

NO FD NO SRS 12th Dec 2007 12:55

Mr Bus!

"MY COUNTRY MY AIRLINE" crap came from your side. he never said that sentence or shouted at TRE. Talking about CRM... I wonder how much CRM you have with this amount of hate for locals???

Propellor 12th Dec 2007 14:40

No FD, No SRS, cool it, mate!

The matter was proven, as there was a witness who testified against the new Captain, and our new Commander has been charged. Leave it to the management to decide the punishment.

About the Training - well, if the Training let him go with doubtful standards, then it is their problem, and they should be accountable.

As for Bahrainis - I think that they are as good or as bad as others in this world. As a general standard, they are not as good as the expats, but then the expats should remember the weaker lot in their parent airlines, those that did not get out to become expats! They should not compare the average Bahraini pilot with their own standard - it is a tad unfair.

Trust me, each airline has their share of the idiots, the non-CRM, the non-procedural, the non-compliant, the non-non-smoking, the ......... lot of pilots. Gulf Air and Bahrain are no different.

.Aero 12th Dec 2007 17:35


each airline has their share of the idiots, the non-CRM, the non-procedural, the non-compliant
Shouldn't GulfAir actively lay off such individuals? Why would they embrace such individuals to represent Gulf Air and it's company culture? People in possession of the above mentioned attributes are a liability. :bored:

Propellor 12th Dec 2007 19:27

"Shouldn't GulfAir actively lay off such individuals? Why would they embrace such individuals to represent Gulf Air and it's company culture? People in possession of the above mentioned attributes are a liability."

Easy.
Will you make the call? For a start, have you reported your Captain or First Officer smoking? Or, does it never takes place when you are around! Come on!

.Aero 12th Dec 2007 20:05

have you reported your Captain or First Officer smoking?

No - I'm not a pilot nor a Gulf Air employee; however I would like to know out of interest if such channels of internally reporting incidents or non-compliance exist within Gulf Air - and if so - do they guarantee anonymity?

Che Guevara 13th Dec 2007 05:06


I'm not a pilot nor a Gulf Air employee; however I would like to know out of interest if such channels of internally reporting incidents or non-compliance exist within Gulf Air - and if so - do they guarantee anonymity?
Aero,
So what are you doing on this forum amigo?


Shouldn't GulfAir actively lay off such individuals?
Quite frankly, it's none of your business....

Adios

B. Bonga 13th Dec 2007 17:35

Pprune being a rumour network cannot be disputed. But using it to wash dirty linen in public borders on juvenile behaviour. :* Sometimes l think an age limit would bring sanity to some of the stuff you see here.

Amazingly these are some of the people we have to entrust with the lives of our family members. :hmm::hmm: Am not playing holier than thou but some guys here take the piss out of Pprune. So bus 787 and Flying spanner go knit a sweater or something .........:p

........let the big cahoonas deal with the matter !

In the meantime am off to grab a beer..........:}

ironbutt57 14th Dec 2007 16:34

a very old "little Johnny" joke

Little Johnny goes to his father a major senior airline Capt

"daddy daddy, when I grow up I want to be an airline Capt just like you"

Dad's reply..."well son...you can't do BOTH""

'nuff said???


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