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Not too small 15th Dec 2007 09:49

You are so rigth
 
I chose to be a pilot what did you chose?

ironbutt57 15th Dec 2007 10:17

Same thing:p

Icarus 15th Dec 2007 11:50

.aero;

... channels of internally reporting incidents or non-compliance exist within Gulf Air..

I believe this is a requirement of both JAR and IOSA in terms of being able to report without fear of recrimination; so there should be; whether there is, or one that is effective, might be another question.

wingsman 15th Dec 2007 11:59

Dear all,

Can anybody confirm !!!, i heard that this new capt. in the picture slapped his FO across the face in dispatch during his line check infront of the TRE, then said in My country My :mad::mad: Airline. can anybody clearify this.

Nice CRM !!!

Albergineman 15th Dec 2007 13:34

I heard as well maybe one year ago one pilot almost hit the other with the crash axle in the cockpit!

My country, my airline, my crash axle...

:ugh:

ELLONNAGUN 15th Dec 2007 15:16

C.R.M
 
THE ADD. MY COUNTRY MY A/L

EXTREMELY BAAAAAD HOW THIS WOULD MAKE THE EXPATS:confused: FEEL :confused:CRM IS ABOUT TEAM WORK AND NOT YOU OR ME ITS MUST BE US .:=

undersiege 15th Dec 2007 17:35

Albergineman
 
:D:ok:lol,lol,lol:D:ok:
Heard kind of the same story. My GF rumour was that it was one of those flying cook's because the F/O complained the meal he ordered wasn't big enough potion size. It was the straw that broke the camel's back(pardon the pun), because he was flirtting with his Thai assistant and she turned him down.:{

Sal-e 15th Dec 2007 19:58

That bit of advertisement is probably only about Bahrain's sole ownership of Gulf Air and nothing else. Why is everyone over analysing a simple ad?

undersiege 15th Dec 2007 22:09

Sal-e
 

That bit of advertisement is probably only about Bahrain's sole ownership of Gulf Air and nothing else. Why is everyone over analysing a simple ad?
:*:*:*

Not just a Simple add. They new what they were doing when they placed the add.

MY COUNTRY MY AIRLINE...... its ours and don't forget it EXPAT.

But when things go wrong, its not our fault, it's the EXPAT fault.

They take over OUR country, take OUR jobs and ruin OUR airline. :yuk::yuk::mad::mad:

.Aero 16th Dec 2007 00:53


MY COUNTRY MY AIRLINE...... its ours and don't forget it EXPAT.
Sad truth is - Bahrain breeds racism from it's very core.

brassplate 16th Dec 2007 02:28

just bahrain? try the entire frickin' middle east.

Trader 16th Dec 2007 04:37

Well, I have not seen the ad or heard any official comment but I am guessing it is a simple marketing effort that you would see anywhere else in the world. In fact, the slogan is so clean and simple that my guess is they ripped it off from another airline in Europe, NA or OZ!!!!

This is the exact type of advertsiing you would see from either a national airline anywhere in the West or from any of the upstart low costs trying to muscle into new markets and capitalize on a countries citizens pride.

So why should GF be any different in that regard. They are targeting the Bahraini narket with those ads and, since it is the countries airline, they have added some national pride which always helps with advertising.

But like I said - have not seen the ads so maybe I am wrong.

Che Guevara 16th Dec 2007 05:36

Hola Sal-e,


That bit of advertisement is probably only about Bahrain's sole ownership of Gulf Air and nothing else.
I think you are spot on. Bahain now has their own de facto national airline and they are proud of it, nothing wrong with that at all, in fact I congratulate them and wish them all the best. I also believe that as 'expats' we should be thankful that we have jobs in their country and their airline.

Ciao

ironbutt57 16th Dec 2007 06:01

Sign me up with Trader, and Che..:ok:



hasta la vista baby!!!

El Rey Leon 16th Dec 2007 16:05

Message To GF Training Captains
 
What our future captain did is totally not accepted!
(ref Gf Crm Arrogance thread)

But But But believe me guys there are SOME TREs that really need to hear your voice especially when you are doing your command upgrade, Or you are still a new FO with limited knowledge of the AC and company procedures!

I suggest we talk to them in a professional and mature way!

Most of them are PPRUNERS and they will read our messages

I suggest you tell them through this thread when you think they went wrong! They can either defend themselves or stop torturing people just because they are examiners!

I will give an example of the captain who was shouting in the simulator and insisting that ECAM ACTIONS has to be done with dual Engine Failure!!

My Message to him is
A) He did not know that the procedure of a dual engine flame out is to do the paper checklist.
B) There is no room to scream in the simulator it is just a small box. Freeze the Sim and debrief if necessary
C) We can not always do it YOUR way

Having saying that MOST of them are really good! So let us work on the bad ones :O

bus787 17th Dec 2007 04:24

Why?
 
If MY country My airline mean that GF is happy with full ownership why after few days that Oman pulled out they said they are trying to find an investor to buy 50%.????
SO than we change MY COUNTRY MY HALF AIRLINE!!!!!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS GUYS FOR ALL EID XMAS AND NEW YEAR.

brassplate 17th Dec 2007 05:39

50/50 is majority share in most languages. besides, they need another partner to blame all the problems gf has.

bus787 17th Dec 2007 06:10

That is good brass.
Also they found out that OOPSS how can I steal from my own Pocket.?


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