GF would be better off to re-enlist some old tri-stars than to get those boat anchors....we dont go that far away anyway....DC-8-73 on steroids that thing is...

I for one would be delighted to see SYD back on the GF map should they need justification to aquire an A346:)

Can this bird do a BAH-SYD non stop? and would it be viable seeing EK and EY do it from the Gulf(let alone QR's ambitions to do so from MEL)

Any fleet of less than ten (10) airplanes is not cost effective, and while some don't have this immediate concern, some of us do....wish we were all in the same boat here....yes the 340-5/6 could take us non-stop to Oz....and loads of us here dream of this....can't see this in the cards here at GF....uless of course the price is right for the machines....kind of see this machine in the same light as the 767-400, and the 757-300....all great machines...for a specific mission...do carriers here in the gulf REALLY optimise machines to the mission???:confused:

What We Waitting For
 

:\Any news or rumours........weeks turned into months.........what they waitting for..........we can not go like that forever.....last week 10 A/C grounded with two major TECH.......eng failure in the crz and flap problem at lndg...........what more......are we waitting for another GF072.................ships getting old.............wake up bords as:mad:ho:mad:........i am sure your families are not travilling with GF other wise you cared.......................... HEY AAB what's up , looking for me...... i am the one who's run away with your egyption girl friend......if need more info PM me ....chaow....:ok::{

:Dlol:Dlol:D

What about the 321s
 

What happened to the plans of introducing the A321. Have they been dropped completely?

321's coming in Q2 2008.


Fatal: 072 was not due to old or broken aircraft; shiny new ones are just as prone if you put the wrong guy in the cockpit.

[QUOTE]some old tri-stars than to get those boat anchors...[QUOTE]

Expect at least one, possibly two TriStar's to be wet leased-in rather soon.
Back to the future...:}

Icarus thanks
 

Icarus thanks for input what he ment was another accident.
because i dont think the board will be happy too.
If anything happen they will share responsibility in front of all the media.

hey icars or which ever you called your self..........the gf072 is happened in 2000......now we are approching 2008 ......aircrafts some of them now more than 15 years old......so even if you put an ace on them you can not prevent an accident ......so this the right time to change and replace the ships

fatal gulfy- i agree they are getting old and for our sake and customers we need new aircraft.

But..."so even if you put an ace on them you can not prevent an accident"

this is complete BS. AA is still flying MD 80's around safely!!!! 767 are a proven safe aircraft if taken care of properly. 320's in north america are still considered a relatively "new" aircraft. i understand how is gets frustrating at GF but please dont tell me that becasue we fly older 767 and 320/30/40 it is an accident waiting to happen. If our planes are taken care of and crews trained properly these aircraft are just fine in the safety department.

Fact is new aircraft order will solidify us in market and boost our beliefs at GF. It is a business decision with many factors.

Thanx Icarus for the info concerning the 321s!

How many are expected? Still 4 aircraft?

As far as I am am aware it is only two - due in March and April.

Rather Too Small & Fatal:
Old aircraft DO NOT = ACCIDENT

Old Aircraft do not mean 'an accident waiting to happen' as DH reiterates. New aircraft are just a susceptible to being pranged if driven improperly.

Fatal - I'm curious from reading a lot of your posts; any chance of sharing your psychometric results? I'd love to see 'em.

For once Icarus, I fully agree with you. Wow, I can't believe I just said that!

According to FATAL him (her) self, he/she is a "senior TRE"...:eek:

Driving an Old Morris Minor or the latest Porche does not make you prone for more accidents.
It depends on the state of mind of the DRIVER.!!!!!
NEW porches still crash and turn upside down .
I can agree an Old Morris might take too much from certain people to dirve safely.BUT ARENT WE ALL PROFESSIONAL ???

isn't it all about risk management? we fly with mdds because the type allows for some of those for a prescribed time, thereby minimising risk. being rust buckets as they are, there are way too many of these mdds that continue up to months before anything is done about them.
the allowable prescribed time frame is abused and extended by loopholes, ignorance, laziness, whatever, time and time again and the normal redundancies of these aircrafts that make them REALLY safe becomes eroded by gf engineering's way of doing things and many other reasons.
of course, some mdds increase the load on pilots, possibly to the point that if an event took place coupled with other pressures, they would be overwhelmed.
so please, if anyone thinks these planes are safer than newer machines, explain yourself.

Brass which GF 320 has the original engine or parts in it??
On the other hand relax guys BN says we almost there ...we never heard this before.

BUS the management always say but dont DO

Boilermaker: Must be the time of year, "Goodwill to all Men" and all that. We can pick up again after the New Year I'm sure!

In the meantime.... Seasons Greetings.