Current Gulf Air issues (threads merged)
Andre Dose to make a big announcement on his organisation.
From the Arabic Newspapers, VPS, VPBU and VPF are out tomorrow along with VPN. So, all the Bahrainis are out and only ones left are VPMS and VPIT. Should make for an interesting day tomorrow. |
What about VPO?
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My information is that VPN resigned over a month ago. So technically, he was not 'let go'.
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Betcha no changes for...VABB VOMM VOBG or the rest of them "V"'s:}
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Hum....Just like V1....go or no go.....what a f.....g mess!
Bring back Mrs Sequira....honest and good looking. By the way anyone been able to get a retirement travel ticket out of the London Office recently? |
Hmmmm. Is it about the 747's? Will they be -100's or -200's? ;)
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stories were Mr Boeing's clan were offering some 747 as an interim 767 fleet replacement..but I thought the idea was to reduce the aircrafttypes in order to rationalize the fleet..a fuel-guzzling 747 would hardly do that...but we wait and see...must be true...it was in the GDN! :ok:
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either that or the other rumour is 340-500's from Boeing in the interim. Another overwright fuel guzzling aircraft that no one wants :) Hopefully it until something better becomes available in the market. God i hope i don't have to go on a bus.
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Nothing wrong with a 'bus rating or experience these days...but heard the 340-500's not suitable config for us, or apparently the previous owner either..they got dumped for 777's :ok:
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Keep dreming about new aircraft :zzz: it seem like Mr. Dose planing to down size the airline... so the whole idea of having new A/C's is just a dream... Just remeber who anounced the plan of getting new A/C (Mr. Alhamadi) is out of the company anyway, now we have someone with diffrent ideas...
GOOD LUCK TO ALL :} |
One of the Arabic newspapers in Bahrain mentioned today that all First class tickets for employees will be stopped because it is costing the company a lot of money. Talking to my source, he said that an ID90 First class to LON costs 150 dinars. Even a free ticket cost him 50 dinars in taxes alone. That is a lot of money to pay for a seat you can only get if it is available and unoccupied by a paying passenger. Even if you have the full meal from the flying chefs, it does not cost the company more than 10 dinars.
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Think the planned fleet replacement has been on the table for quite sometime, as well as reducing the fleet types..time will tell
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In the Arabic newspapers today, Gulfair are to cease services to Sydney, Dublin and unbelievably Frankfurt!!! SYD and DUB i can see, but FRA:confused:
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In the Arabic newspapers today, Gulfair are to cease services to Sydney, Dublin and unbelievably Frankfurt!!! SYD and DUB i can see, but FRA |
Gulf Air
So what is really going on with GF? are they not doing good!!! So, all these magazines I have been reading regarding aviation boom in bahrain is not true!:hmm: I aslo noticed that the government pumped in money into this company!!! Is the problem from the managment or is it that people are not flying?
any info would be graete :ok: |
Marketing. Image.
Marketing. Image. Marketing. Image. Two words that GF need to work on - they have been beaten by the likes of QR / EK / EY (the ultra-former latterly) who have spent proper dollar in "keeping the brand alīve". GF - unfortunately - hasn't done it well enough. The company has allowed itself to disappear into the undergrowth....... Take the prime example of "Cool Britannia". The UK is currently bombarded by the savvy PR people from EK / QR / EY who have associated themselves with leading market placements - EK with Arsenal and cricket et al, QR with SKY NEWS and CNN, Etihad with Man Utd, etc........ Gulf Air??????? Nowhere!! Ok, I am the first to admit that slick advertising doesnt neccessarily guarantee an excellent product. But brand awareness DOES guarantee bums on seats. (whether they be satisfied bums or not......) GF has given up the ghost. Andre can make as many cuts and economies that he is able, but unless he relights the brand fire, it's all pointless. |
Sure, advertising translates to bums on seats, and it does pay to advertise, however, does $1 in advertising return at least $1 in profit?
Lets face it, most of the Middle-Eastern carriers are not profitable. What we are seeing is the airline-equivalent of the nuclear arms race between the USSR and the USA in the late 1900's. I am not saying that I have the answer or the solution, rather, I am questioning on whether "keeping up with the Jones'" is the key to profit and progress. I agree with you that cutting alone is not the solution-- you cut and cut, and pretty soon there is nothing less. Gord Bethune covered that philosophy well in his book "From Worst to First." |
.....and CO is still here!
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Talking to my source, FRA is definitely not on the endangered list.
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Ok, I am the first to admit that slick advertising doesnt neccessarily guarantee an excellent product. But brand awareness DOES guarantee bums on seats. (whether they be satisfied bums or not......) But then, the best position is the one that is reflected through the staff, because if anything they are subconciously the best advertising any company has, once that is achieved then and only then will GF be positionned, let's see that happen...:suspect: Andre's task I am afraid is not easy....good luck, because beyond convincing the nationals that this is their airline and get them to work in addition to swiping in and out everyday, GF needs to rid itself of some pretty awfull ozzie remains! Blondie, MK are only but a few! |
Getting rid of the deadwood should be a simple task considering that it appears he is replacing most at the VP level. If he brings in people he trusts it will not take long for them to see the the non-performers below them. Replacing them and moving on down the chain in the same manner may produce some good results.
It appears that Mr Dose has the required 'carte blanche' to make those changes - at least I hope he does. |
GF's main problem is not the lack of slick advertisement but the lack of clean toilets and clean (untired) looking cabins.
Flash adverts, flash paint jobs and "on-board" chefs may lure you onboard, but it's the state of the cabins that will bring you back. This is something that most of the "miracle workers" that they have hired in the past have failed to comprehend. :ouch: Will Mr. Dose? |
Gulf Air axes execs in shake-up
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Gulf air
Gulf air considering either Boeing 787s or Airbus A350s on option, to replace its Boeing 767 aircraft which are to be phased out by 2009.
is it true :eek: |
I think Gulf Air is considering everything. Lacking though, is a timely decision, which gets worse as other airlines announce large purchases of these new planes (meaning that any new metal (or plastic) will take even longer to show up on the apron). I've seen a Boeing poster with a picture of a Boeing 787 in the GF livery-- looks nice and without having all the information, facts and data, I personally think the 787 would make a good fit to the fleet.
Hopefully with the new leadership on property, and what seems to be renewed dedication from Government to make Gulf Air work, some sort of decision will be announced soon. In the meantime, it is my hope that Mr. Dose and his team will push some characteristic Swiss precision and standards into things that are most readily apparent to our passengers, such as the interiors of our existing fleet (they will be here for years still) and on-time performance. |
Downsize...
Got following info from a friend.
On Sunday, 8 April 2007 the Board of Directors unanimously approved our restructuring plan aimed at securing the future of Gulf Air to the benefit of the economy and the people of the Kingdom of Bahrain and the Sultanate of Oman. The restructuring plan includes far reaching measures to improve the profitability of our company and to stop the significant losses that occur each day. These measures include the downsizing of the current fleet from 34 to 28 aircraft, creating an all Airbus fleet, and no longer using our own aircraft to fly to some unprofitable destinations. |
Its Bye Bye 76 from Sept
and bye bye HKG, SIN , SYD, CGK, JNB & DUB DOWN to 28 A/C at least we won't cause any embarrassment to Boeing or Airbus for late deliveries Just think of how many redundancies this will cause and who's the new VPO Bjorn ..... wish it was Borg S.L. |
you don't think the b767 drivers will go onto the airbuses? what about the long termers? Or even the ones with bonds still outstanding?
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Places like CGK and HKG are not profitable? :confused:
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SYD yes, didnt hear HKG or or SIN..:eek:
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Heard we would open on GVA and ZRH instead...
/Spirit (now available with sunglasses...):cool: |
so at last ,the boeing drivers are gonna fly with side sticks and the guys who are worried to are resigning before it's too late:ok:
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SYD?
GF SYD has just employed a couple of new staff. Also they are currently shortlisting for their AUS/NZ Gen Mgr role for which they received 60ish resumes.
Are we definitely sure SYD will be axed or is this merely the 'viewpoint' of those who feel SYD should go. With QR, EY and EK in AUS or wanting more flight slots into AUS, makes no real sense for GF to pull out. Esp if restructuring means the GF product will get even better in/out of SYD.:hmm: Anyone with any GF authority able to confirm SYD as a definite axe? Thanks:) |
apparently, you can now add the vpo to that list.
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you've just about covered the more civilised destinations that gulf air flies to. will they now go to only the 3rd world destinations with their new aircrafts? what a novel idea!
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ODMEA, lots of rumours flying around...just that as far as official info made public at this time:confused:
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GF destinations
Boys, boys, boys!
3rd world destinations as you call them are the bread and butter of GF, and who ever put in your mind that SYD was one of the "more" civilised destinations we have? Since when is OZ civilised, I think you need to check your values, Austaralia and ozzies are not civilised, particularly when they are drivers, or cropdusters if you want to call them that! |
awss2,
Let me give you some examples in order for you to understand the term CIVILIZED for I fear you do not comprehend it's true meaning. Civilized is when your society has embraced human rights Civilized is when your society encourages freedom of speech Civilized is having a high state of culture and development both social and technological Civilized is when you don't marry your first cousin Civilized is when you drive your car you don't have your baby in your lap and the other 7 kids hanging out the windows Civilized is when you respect the Indian laborer as you would your own brother Civilized is when you see a dog crossing the street you brake and not accelerate Hope that clears things up dear chappy Cheers Capt Fluffies |
Hair Y Balls,
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Furthermore I wonder why Sydney always rates in the TOP 5 or 10 cities in the world as most livable cities..I've YET to see ANY GCC city rate in the top 50!:hmm:
What a nasty thing to say about such a wonderful country and some of the friendliest people in the world.:confused: Boy can this forum reach lows at times! awss2 you haven't by chance ever applied for a job with Qantas and been rejected have you?:E Oddy:sad: |
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