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Etihad
Hi Guys,
Any news from the guys went for an interview on 11th Nov. Any updates, Any gouge :hmm: |
Originally Posted by the TRUTH about EY
(Post 2975515)
don’t believe when they say as soon when you arrive your Villa with Swimming pool is going to be ready in 3 weeks......nothing but the truth...
I agree accommodation is the biggest drawback at Etihad. I can't say for sure whether the company provided accommodation is sufficient or not, it all depends on what each individuals idea of sufficient is. Its certainly below my expectations so I looked elsewhere. You forgot to mention that you can even use your housing allowance to pay off a mortgage which some are already doing. For anyone interested in EY do ask about accommodation at the interview. Its a problem area but things have been moving admittedly at a slow pace. Thats my take on nothing but the truth. |
Well said EGL
I cannot believe anyone was promised a villa wih a swimming pool. Housing is still a problem but its heading in the right direction...if you come here with unrealistic expectations you will be dissappointed....best stay in your palace at home!. Certain crew both Flt & Cabin stay in their rooms and eat pot noodles in every airline...its hardly unique to EY! Regarding the night pyjamas...have the Wee Willy Winkie hats and Superman dressing gowns also gone!!.. |
Originally Posted by cantilever
(Post 2975683)
Housing is still a problem but its heading in the right direction...
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heading right direction??
Does heading right direction mean that they give you a 2 or 3 bedroom apartment and expect your 4 kids to entertain themselves playing/riding the elevator up and down? or is this your own unique problem?
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Never ending housing issue..........
Guys, you know what? Before you go jumping off a bridge and find out your bungee isn't tied to your tongue, why don't you ask yourselve's, do I live in a villa where I come from with a swimmig pool and maid and a driver?
I mean really, people who go to EK "mostly" get what is promised to them as far as housing is concerned, the airline has existed for more than 2 decades and there is a good supply of housing in the Dubai area. Abu Dhabi on the other hand has been slow to get on the real estate band wagon and prices are generally steeper in the capital. This accomodation problem is not unique to EY, other companies also suffer the same predicament. I know many proffesionals who are still waiting for decent housing also. So before you even think about making the "move" ask yourself? 1. Did I do my homework and reseach enough about the country I plan to live in? 2. Do I live in a villa back home complete with all the bells and whistles I think I should have? 3. Is coming to this company or any other company worth making the move for my pleasure or to invest time and effort into building this company up to the level you think it can achieve? It's all about realistic goals and expectations, you know there is a housing problem at this point so going there and bitching about it really doesn't do anything for anyone. Stay home in your 5 bedroom airconditioned villas complete with maid and driver and two car garage. Otherwise come out here with an open mind and expect some hassle till you settle down. :ok: |
I hope by now that pilots considering joining Etihad will have built up a better picture about working for the Company, and living in Abu Dhabi, having read through the previous posts on this forum. From my perspective, the airline has enormous potential, and continues to realize that potential daily, note the 37th destination announced recently in just 3 years. Working conditions and renumeration have improved steadily, yes with minor hiccups, but we're moving in the right direction, and are currently under review again for an increase. The issue with housing, as was mentioned earlier, is a continuing issue, but new joiners are getting housing within a reasonable time of joining, and those of us here are steadily moving into company provided apartments. Yes, apartments, don't come here expecting villas unless you're willing to shell out some extra Dirhams, which by the way is your perogative, they are available, but people, what exactly is the problem with that, as far as I know people, including pilots, are known to live in apartments and condos in North America and Europe, except that most of the time they're paying out of their own pockets for that privilege in those places, here we don't. As far as bringing kids here goes, there is lots to do here, scuba diving, skiing both water and snow, ice skating, sailing, fishing, karting, dune bashing, camping to name a few, my kids have not yet had to resort to riding elevators for entertainment. Some of our esteemed collegues need to grow up and stop whinging :{ about pajamas and pot noodles, and see the big picture. And here's the disclaimer, I'm not management, just a line pilot who's happy as hell to be living and working here. Ma Salama:ok:
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EY Accomodation
Semper Fi,
To answer you, yes I came from a nice villa elsewhere with most of the bells and whistles. (No driver) I brought most of them with me and they just plain wont fit into what is on offer. The folks looking at joining now have a clear picture right now and can make an informed decision. However, those of us that joined some time back had no such insight and were "hoodwinked". Regarding other proffessionals, yes they also struggle to find accom, but at least their companies cough up. The building industry get up to Aed180 000, and lets not mention what our fellow professionals at Royal jet and ATC's get. Hopefully things will continue to improve.:ok: |
I mean really, people who go to EK "mostly" get what is promised to them as far as housing is concerned, the airline has existed for more than 2 decades and there is a good supply of housing in the Dubai area. |
There are a few points I fail to understand from the serial whingers, perhaps someone could clarify;
1 If life in your homeland was so good why did you leave to come to EY? 2 If EY is so unbearable why do you stay? Housing allowance increased (not nearly enough) but surely this is a step in the right direction...schooling increased..(no one paid my kids education at home!). My kids certainly do not amuse themselves in the elevator and if yours do maybe you should consider joining a club....then again maybe they are not upto standard! Time for some of us to grow up,... EY is far from perfect but come here with realistic expectations and do some homework ....:ugh: |
Originally Posted by Ian Turner
(Post 2956795)
Hi Guy's
I'm a USA Pilot been flying in the States and rest of world for 20+ years. Looking to finish my Aviation Career flying for a few years around the rest of the world. Can anyone that's a current Pilot with Etihad Airways tell me what it's been like working there. Thanks Ian |
Is it worth.....?
Hello Friends,
I'm new here. This is my first post. I have just read all the comments about Etihad and also seen their ad. Please tell me, is it worth giving up a left seat in 737-800 in India for a right seat in a 777 in Etihad? I ask this in the context of Company and Social environments as well as the 777. I'd be grateful for all your comments. Thanks. |
Avinash,
I think you will find that Etihad have enough qualified B777 first officers applying for the few remaining positions on the fleet that your application would not see the light of day. I've heard they may consider non-rated (non A320/330/340 or B777) pilots in the future but not right now. I've a friend in a similar situation which is why I can provide an answer. |
London's Control, I see you are 17 years old. Are you a bit young to be making pronouncements on this forum?
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ethiad
I would like to have some info from insider please on the T&C:
Housing allowance of 108 000 is that enough for a villa??? How's the rostering? biding? Do they plan for commuting contract or overseas base? On the web they say 700 aed per duty day is that the per diem or just flight pay?? Average hours on the 330/340 per month? And the most important one are you guys happy there or you have to fight for everything thanks |
oh no.................
You've opened a new can of worms again with that question, c'mon boys, do the sharks wanna answer objectively or subjectively....again.:}
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ethiad and abu dhabi living condition
I would like to have some info from insider please on the T&C:
Housing allowance of 108 000 is that enough for a villa??? How's the rostering? biding? Do they plan for commuting contract or overseas base? On the web they say 700 aed per duty day is that the per diem or just flight pay?? Average hours on the 330/340 per month? And the most important one are you guys happy there or you have to fight for everything thanks |
Hey tintin, I'm sure they want to hire pilots who can't even spell the name of the company properly:eek:
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sec 3
Took the words right
out of my mouth........after all we must protect our high standards:ugh: |
Titin
Yeahhhhhh mate we are very happy....come on budy join ethiad:=
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Hey Strato....did your spellcheck break down!...Buddy!!:}
Tintin 1. No unless you are very lucky 2. Random rostering no bid line although requests are accepted...no guarantees!... 3. No commuting contract (upto the individual if he wants to do it!).. not aware of any plans for overseas base. 4. 700AED per diem (duty day) 350 for SBY....no flight pay. 5. Sorry not on the Bus 6. Some of us are happy but if you read the EY threads you will hear a lot who are not....do your homework and decide if its for you:ok: |
noflare
NOOOOOOOOOOOO just a typo.....murphys law nobrains
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Tintin re: ETIHAD again ETIHAD
1. I doubt you'll find a villa for 108,000 or one of a standard you would accept. You could possibly find a decent one at that price in one of the satellite towns that surround Abu Dhabi or try Al Ain where some crew already stay. 2. AED700 is for each day you are on duty, it includes flight pay. There are no other allowances on top. 3. No overseas bases. No commuting contracts. We have a few commuters already but only to such places as Bahrain. 4. Hours vary, especially now with the A345. I average around 40-50 per month at the moment with a mix of long and shorthaul on both A332 and A343/345. I understand the hours will increase next year with the arrival of yet more aircraft. 5. Myself and family very happy and content. As has been said countless times only negative, as far as I am concerned, is accommodation which has improved but still falls very short of my expectations. Company accommodation I would not live in, terrible choice of buildings rather than its only what we can afford I believe. Then again its free so should anyone complain? |
Hmmmmmmm shortest tenure ever if its true!
Sounds like rumours to me but who knows:eek: |
Etihad / AUH
Hello guys!
I am new to this and I just would like to ask for some infos... I already read through the "Etihad - all you need to know..."-thread in this forum, but I didn't find what I wanted to know. Here comes: What is life in AUH like while flying for Etihad (F/O on Airbus)? Can somebody post some details about rosters (days off, stability, stby, nights home per month etc), and living in AUH (costs of living, social life among expats and so on), please? I am thinking about applying there so I'm trying to get as much info as possible before I do so. We'll have a little baby shortly so one major factor for me is living there with a little one and how often will I be able to see it??? Thanks a lot, all answers are highly apprecciated!!! HossaJose :confused: |
Yes he upset many and made many happy. like the Eastenders EY is turing to ...... drama after drama, back stabbing, firing old and new enemies.
Who is the next CEO ? .. I heard David Brent a.k.a Ricky Gervais from The Office is next. I bet his good init ? What a Kerfuffle ? they stopped moving Male Crew to a diffrent buildings and they say it's okay now for males to stay with Females in one building and earlier they said it is the Goverment who wants males seperated from Females so what we can see now all lies were from the begining so how can expceted Crew to do what they call it PERFECT HOST on board aftr all the hussle with Housing Department. Loads of EY Crew are moving to EK or packing back Home some with loans and some just with some EY playing cards and training and layovers photos to keep for memory. The Big Bahraini VP Bloke is gone. AR the Housing Bloke... khalaas is back to Gamco Mamma Hanger.. good for the company and I guess all the C.Crew and F.Dick are happy now. N**ed B... is in next episode more news to come. A bin Seif no longer in charge ( Bad news for Moroccan Crew no more late night phone calls and shouting at your CM that is you have a big back support ) Finance Lads there, Any news about Meal allowances or wages increasment for Cabin Crew ? many are upset and threating the company to walk in group in Febaruary to a neighbour Airline if they don't get Meal allowances they been promised for the last 2 years. I heard last deadline is in january. Happy Flying.... Cheers |
Ahhhh, the proverbial shining apple... :rolleyes:
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Etihad
Any chance of an email address for the HR department pls. Tried the ones previously mentioned however the email bounced straigh back.
Cheers to all, Aus' |
EY Contact
Cheers to you,
Aus' |
Simple question
Hi!
I had a post a little while ago asking about life in AUH as an Expat pilot. Is there really nobody in here who is willing to give me some details about rosters on the Airbus, the cost of living, social life among Expats and how it is to raise a kid there? Thanks again for any kind of help/advise!!! HossaJose :confused: |
How about searching?...:rolleyes:
Originally Posted by EasyGo-Lucky?
(Post 2957468)
Hi Ian,
So far its been a blast. Its not perfect by any means but I've had no regrets. I enjoy living in Abu Dhabi and the lifestyle it offers and after a long time I now look forward to going to work. Accommodation is probably the biggest drawback. The Company provided is barely sufficient in my opinion but then it depends on what you are expecting or are used to. The overall package appears to be always under review and so far it has only improved except for standby duty which is now paid at half the original rate. The arrival of James Hogan has been seen as very positive by all the ex Gulf Air crew here but for the majority of us the verdit is still out. Its hard to say how he'll do after such a short time. Cost of living I consider reasonable but again it is what you are accustomed to and what lifestyle you expect to maintain and wife too now I think of it. There is no tax and your biggest purchase will probably be a boat or a car which are much cheaper than the prices I am used to back in Europe. Loans are no problem once you have your UAE residence visa which takes about 2 weeks. Flying wise I doubt you will find better. The relationship with the cabin crew is excellent. I haven't felt any pressure from above on fuel or delays etc which again has been a welcome change. The rosters are a little odd in the flight distribution where you tend to have a week of tight flying then a relaxed week etc but at the end of the month most importantly I don't feel anywhere near as tired as I did in my previous Company. I have found my greener grass for now but again I cannot speak for all. If you are offered an interview then I would suggest at least using it to have a look if nothing else. Best of luck. Good luck!!!:) |
@fractional
Thanks, I had read that, and I've also been searching a lot. The only thing is, I've been looking for more detailed information, but never mind, I just continue searching! |
HossaJose,
According to people working with EY and this Forum posts, education allowance is now suitable but the housing allowance is very short of the prices on offer for a decent apartment or a villa. Now, without any prejudice, DECENT will have very different interpretations. You may well need to stand in with a minimum of 30% of you own ca$h to get a good home. EY is very good for either start (F/Os) or end (DECs) of careers. The latter will upset many (F/Os) if the company follows that path. Flying is pretty much good with very good on board environment with both cockpit and cabin crews. Rosters are quite good, late as ever and there is a lot of chopping and changing. EY has a great potential and will never ever go bankrupt, not in the next 50 years at least. EY has been having "living problems" from the very start. Many call them teething and growing problems. They need people who know the (airline) stuff and are given free hand to make very important and decisive steps. Abu Dhabi, like other Emirates in the UAE, is safe except when you are on the road driving or being driven, quiet for now and there is some stuff for leisure. Things are changing and the Dubai "horror" stories will eventually arrive there too with the projected level of development for the city and surroundings. However, Emirates and Dubai still please me.:) |
Fractional,
Thank you very much for this post, that was more the kind I was looking for. Always happy landings, HJ |
All is too quiet here, alias down the highway... It's the weekend!
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it s because we are too busy looking at other airlines having their pilot package raised and ordering aircraft... :bored:
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The fact that the guy ended up in the CAA sums his achievments up!
Had he been any use then other carriers would have snapped him up. Smacks of jobs for the boys Im afraid!:ugh: |
On almost every thread about every airline in this forum you end up seeing:
You guys know your terms and conditions. You know your salary. You know your allowances. ALL BEFORE YOU SIGN A CONTRACT. Why bother coming in the first place if all you ever bitch about is not being paid enough? |
You wont get any commanders till the base salary is at least 10k USD
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Pulling the ranks
Boys will be boys,
For once EY has a management team that for the least brings everyone hope that things will finally get better. So instead of the bickering we continue to see on this forum, I would recommend you pull the ranks and for once, just for once, truly show what your values stand for. You can moan all you want about the kumpels but at the end of the day, the way things are looking is that sooner than later, the EY team will be the most dynamic in the region with all the financial and political support to make the outfit into a unique one. So good luck to all of you and from the past you should know now how to treat others the way you would like to be treated. Cheers |
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