Very sad to see more and more selection processes becoming HR driven and less about the pilots, the real guy's we fly with. No doubt this will mean more brushing up on spelling and grammer in order to fly some nice airliners... where did I put my 4th form English books!

Well HR involved in recruitment can be a good thing up to a certain limit of course...Just to avoid the "extreme"..
As Boeing man said pilot doesn't only mean being able to fly a aircraft...
(unfortunatly in some part of the world still it is the only requirement...!):\

Hi there,
well I think we all would agree hat MODERATION is the key, like anything else in this world. I'm also against an extensive assessment like Austrian where one travels for a month or so between Zurich and Vienna and at the end of the day nobody knows any more who is who? However I think the presence of HR people might be an advantage providing the selection board with different views. I do agree their opinion should be advisory. I'd prefer to see a selection board comprising of pilots Capt and F/o, HR and psychologist. Never the less we all know it people do change with the time passing by caused by many factors in life therefore there's a need to monitor the progress or regress of the attitude in professional matter. Sooner or later I think a psychologist will be a part of the annual medical.
Cheers.

Surely you jest
 

Isnt it a little too late to be introducing the Psycho tests for new applicants NOW ? What about all the crew who had slipped in through the cracks previously , some who are now lodged in management/training ? {During the days of the "friend get friend" entry requirement :rolleyes: } Shouldnt THEY be subjected to these tests too ? Most of these guys were the first to leave their airlines and rushed to join EY only because of their dodgy records or personality issues , failed entry tests to other airlines etc . I propose all crew present and future be made to take an independent Psycho audit . Otherwise this effort will be kinda like coating a lump of turd with caramel icing just so it will look and smell better. :eek:

My sentiments exactly Camelseyes!

THAT IS NOT TRUE MY FRIEND!!

THEY DO NOT LEAVE THEIR AIRLINES BECAUSE OF ATTITUDE PROBLEMS,NEITHER POOR PERFORMANCE, NOR FAILURES TO GET INTO OTHER AIRLINES.INFACT I FIND THEM TO BE AMONGST THE BEST TRAINED AND EXPERIENCED PILOTS IN THE REGION.

PART OF IT IS CAREER PROGRESS .THEIR CAREER MOVEMENT WAS AT A STANDSTILL AND STAGNANT BACKTHEN AND WILL STILL BE IF THEY HADN'T MOVED!

PLEASE DO NOT SIMPLY THROW ANY FALSE ACCUSATIONS OUT OF ENVY AND JEALOUSY ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU YOURSELF CAN'T MAKE THE GRADE!

CHEERS.

I would also like to know about above program too, as i have been offered an interview in the systems area. Not sure if the above only applicable to flight crew?:confused:

crazy_pilot, hi there. As far as it the technical part concerns I'd suggest just to read the prepare for CX or EK or QR interview. Books like Handling the big jets or Ace the technical questions would do it too. Its not really difficult one just has to remember all those strange dry ATP topics.:ok:
Cheers.

thanks popay for ur response, while u did your best to help it actually confused me even further,
my questiion was that new EY selection program which includes PSYchotecnics, PSYgroup tests etc applicable to cabin crew only OR it's applicable to all jobs, including IT for which i will be inerviewed

Not sure if any member here have had interview with EY for IT specific jobs or non cabin crew jobs, cos that way i can be certin whether i will be going through PSYchotecnics, PSYgroup tests.


Not sure where i can get this, and more importantly applicable to IT jobs?

I guess i can buy the book over the net but that would be applicable to back office job, i.e IT?

Would be ideal to hear from a memebr here who has gone through the inetrveiew process for IT jobs :ok:
Cheers

etihad interviews
 

hi guys can anyone tell me what the etihad 3day interview is about and if anyone will be attending the 16 oct:eek:

:eek: all what I can say good luck ,and study hard

So guys who already passed the interview between the 16th and 18 th of October can you share this 3 days selection process experience please?:rolleyes: :O
We are looking forward to hearing from you....

Etihad Employment
 

Just read through the website.Vacancies for First Officers A330,A340 and 777 and DECs as well.Apparently there is a new improved package offered...

The housing allowance has increased slightly, still not enough to cover your cost for apartments or villas. There is the company provided accommodation for Apartments only and they are really not up to my personal standard. The personal insurance was changed to a different company with a small increase to benefits. There is some rumors that the basic pay will increase but that has yet to be seen. Personally I think they need to keep working at it to fill the upcoming vacancies.

Amberman you are correct on everything except medical. It has gone up from a maximum of AED250,000 per family member per year to AED2,500,000. Much better with the intricacies remaining pretty much the same including woefully inadequate dental and optical coverage.

EY or EK? Depends on whether you are a Capt, FO, with family or not, love Dubai with all its excitement (and traffic), love Abu Dhabi and its slower pace.
An optimist that EY will improve housing soon or not a believer.
Enjoy being in the big machinery of EK or in the fledgling EY that you can help grow. ie; seniority 1700 or 370.
It's a very personal thing and I know folks at both carriers who KNOW they made the right choice. I KNOW I DID!

For how long?

FRACTIONAL....There are no guarantees...Hopefully for as long as I want to be here.

Bredrin,
I am not quite sure where you are coming from, so I take you prefer EY, and chosen to be there and like it? it that true?

I was in the Q right behind ETD tonight out of JFK(340). any other opyomistic points about the airline?

Lots or rumors about improvements to package...but when we see it..we'll believe it

Email from Etihad
 

Just received an email from Etihad noting that my name was on their records, they have a limited number of openings and was I still interested.
I filled out the online application almost two years ago and never followed up because I never even got the time of day from them.
I was very curious what is going on there that they are going back two years fishing for pilot applicants. While I meet their A330/340 captain qualifications, I find it strange that they are not inundated with other pilots equally qualified and eager to work there.
Anyone know what is going on?

http://www.flightglobal.com/Jobs/200...1007/TEST.html
Another little problem:ugh:?

Exprineced the same thing, got a call to say that they want to interview for a job, told them i did not apply for a job, they said i did over a year ago,:confused:

pilotusa
 

they are desperate amigo........
no qualified folks around....theyll take anything with two hands and two legs

Two years ago I would have been on the first flight to Abu Dhabi with my bags packed. Now that my airline has miraculously avoided liquidation, I'm much better off staying put.

May be they are just scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

Dear God's-gift-to-aviation -

Just what is your claim to fame?

We heard recently that GF stopped the process of selection of some pilots who were intending to join EY....No doubt the EY selection guys are calling back a lot of pilots... they were relying on GF pilots and that ban screw up their plans.....:rolleyes:

http://www.gulf-news.com/nation/Hous.../10080765.html
Will this work, really? On paper it looks good, but...:confused: Who's going to control or inspect that the rule is being complied?
Market rules will dictate as Real Estates say:
It'll take some time before AUH property market meets the demand, and then the price will continue to go up because properties are owned by people who want it to go up anyway. Profit! Profit! Profit!:{

Flying for Ethiad
 

Hi Guy's

I'm a USA Pilot been flying in the States and rest of world for 20+ years.

Looking to finish my Aviation Career flying for a few years around the rest of the world.

Can anyone that's a current Pilot with Etihad Airways tell me what it's been like working there.

Thanks
Ian

Etihad Airways
 

Hi Every one.

I have got an interview with Etihad nxt month.
I need a serious advise from the guys who have been through the interview since last few weeks.
I know there might be a lot of info regarding Etihad Interview but I want to hear from some one who went through the intervieiew from 11th Nov till 13th Nov. pls Pvt mail if u can. I will really appreciate ur help.
:cool:

Good luck Ian and c5, got mine soon also.

Etihad
 

Hi Ian,

So far its been a blast. Its not perfect by any means but I've had no regrets. I enjoy living in Abu Dhabi and the lifestyle it offers and after a long time I now look forward to going to work.

Accommodation is probably the biggest drawback. The Company provided is barely sufficient in my opinion but then it depends on what you are expecting or are used to. The overall package appears to be always under review and so far it has only improved except for standby duty which is now paid at half the original rate. The arrival of James Hogan has been seen as very positive by all the ex Gulf Air crew here but for the majority of us the verdit is still out. Its hard to say how he'll do after such a short time.

Cost of living I consider reasonable but again it is what you are accustomed to and what lifestyle you expect to maintain and wife too now I think of it. There is no tax and your biggest purchase will probably be a boat or a car which are much cheaper than the prices I am used to back in Europe. Loans are no problem once you have your UAE residence visa which takes about 2 weeks.

Flying wise I doubt you will find better. The relationship with the cabin crew is excellent. I haven't felt any pressure from above on fuel or delays etc which again has been a welcome change. The rosters are a little odd in the flight distribution where you tend to have a week of tight flying then a relaxed week etc but at the end of the month most importantly I don't feel anywhere near as tired as I did in my previous Company.

I have found my greener grass for now but again I cannot speak for all. If you are offered an interview then I would suggest at least using it to have a look if nothing else.

Best of luck.

Training Bond
 

Anyone know what the training bond would be for a DEC on the Bus for a 767 Capt with no Bus experience at Etihad?? Thanks and PARTY ON!!!

new package
 

What about the end of service benefits ? How much is it ? How many years do you have to stay to get it all ? (7 yrs in EK)

Cheers,
Rogi

There are no end of service benifits assuch at Etihad. Right now the closest thing you get is one months pay for every year of service asseverence pay.
As to the other post about bonding. All bonds are for five years. They are not amortized. the 777 bond is AED 294, 000.
so if you come as an F/O and get an upgrade on the 330 that is AED 220000,
then get trained on the 340 another 74000. then in two years another course on the 380 add AED 294 000. you will owe them around 600 000 and three or four years to go on the bond.
There is lots of room for improvement and rumours of an improved package on the horizon. Rumours being as good as the paper they are written on. However our lot here has been steadily improving in bits and pieces. For example a much better insurance package, and some company provided apartments showing up. I am optimistic that with the new management coming in changes well come.

Etihad Airways
 

Look guys, all airlines have their problems including Etihad. But it has changed dramatically in the last year and it does still have its problems but many were also resolved too. We must look at the bright side of things. The new managment change has only taken place in the last 3 weeks. I think we need to give them time before we can see the good side or the bad side. For the time being i look forward to further improvements in the working conditions in Etihad. I have been there for some time and i am generally very happy to be here. I love Abu Dhabi and its a great life style. :D

EY job what to expect
 

Hi guys, i´ve been offered a position as a FO for the 767 in Ethiad, does anyone knows about what to expect? 777 progression etc... housing routes etc...
All help is welcome.:ok:

good luck mate, hope the thread below will give you a starting point...

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...=249792&page=1

etihad Interview
 

Hi Guys,

Any good news from the guys went for an interview on 11th nov.
Any updates, any gouge.

:confused: