Saudi Aramco - all you need to know about it (threads merged)
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Luke,
For the first period you will be hired under a freelance contract.
The conditions are:
10 weeks on 3 weeks off. Salary for the 737NG is:
Ffrom 5000 to 7500 dollars for an FO plus 19 dollars per-diem.
For a captain. up to 8500 a month plus per diem.
U won't be paid during that off period. They are paying 2500us as travel allowance. Any thing you woll save on top of it is for ur pocket.
When on duty, you will fly around 4 days a week.
Living in their componds where 12000 other employees live.
Very good living conditions.
This contractor period can be long and MIGHT never end up in a full time position.*If you get lucky you will be offered a permanent contract.
Then, things improves greatly.
Permanently based in Damman, you can have your family with you.
The salary is based on 3 different sector scale. US, Euro^pean and others.
As a european you woould be paid a gross figure as a captain around the 10500 euro a month all inclusive.
Scholl is paid for.
Roound trip ticket a year home.
Aramco is a great company to work for, but under their permanent scheme. On the contractor period it is a bit of an abuse as you have no idea how long it will carry on for.
But they need pilots, so it might worth it.
Their chirf pilot, Ahmed Hubaishi is a real good guys but has very high standards level.
...
Any specs just don't hesitate.
For the first period you will be hired under a freelance contract.
The conditions are:
10 weeks on 3 weeks off. Salary for the 737NG is:
Ffrom 5000 to 7500 dollars for an FO plus 19 dollars per-diem.
For a captain. up to 8500 a month plus per diem.
U won't be paid during that off period. They are paying 2500us as travel allowance. Any thing you woll save on top of it is for ur pocket.
When on duty, you will fly around 4 days a week.
Living in their componds where 12000 other employees live.
Very good living conditions.
This contractor period can be long and MIGHT never end up in a full time position.*If you get lucky you will be offered a permanent contract.
Then, things improves greatly.
Permanently based in Damman, you can have your family with you.
The salary is based on 3 different sector scale. US, Euro^pean and others.
As a european you woould be paid a gross figure as a captain around the 10500 euro a month all inclusive.
Scholl is paid for.
Roound trip ticket a year home.
Aramco is a great company to work for, but under their permanent scheme. On the contractor period it is a bit of an abuse as you have no idea how long it will carry on for.
But they need pilots, so it might worth it.
Their chirf pilot, Ahmed Hubaishi is a real good guys but has very high standards level.
...
Any specs just don't hesitate.
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Hey Dustrat,
Not sure who you are, but the only thing I can agree with you there is that Capt. Hubaishi is a nice guy. He really is a nice guy.
But working there is not really a good idea.
Cheers
Not sure who you are, but the only thing I can agree with you there is that Capt. Hubaishi is a nice guy. He really is a nice guy.
But working there is not really a good idea.
Cheers
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Why's that max? Dish the dirt mate ...
I do want to hear the bad as well as the good, my wife reckons it's a mad idea anyway, so if it is dodgy then I'd rather find out now than when I've signed on the dotted line
Why are they recruiting now anyway, are some of the expats finding all these attacks on western compounds a bit too hot to handle?
I do want to hear the bad as well as the good, my wife reckons it's a mad idea anyway, so if it is dodgy then I'd rather find out now than when I've signed on the dotted line
Why are they recruiting now anyway, are some of the expats finding all these attacks on western compounds a bit too hot to handle?
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Geo2,
Its not an airline as such, but the corporate side of the Saudi Aramco oil company. It transports employees to various destinations within Saudi Arabia.
I believe that their company and VIP fleets are different, therefore B737's dont leave Saudi Arabia.... ALthough considering that they are selling their DC8, this may have changed.
Mutt.
Its not an airline as such, but the corporate side of the Saudi Aramco oil company. It transports employees to various destinations within Saudi Arabia.
I believe that their company and VIP fleets are different, therefore B737's dont leave Saudi Arabia.... ALthough considering that they are selling their DC8, this may have changed.
Mutt.
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Hi Mutt..
Nope, B737's not going out of kingdom.
The DC8 is being sold or has been.....Because a brand new B767-200ER has been purchased (N767A)...
Luke, my advise would be that if you have a decent job stay there...Trust me..
If you dont have a job, or a bad one....then go for it...
Expats in Dhahran are worried of course, but that hasnt made them leave in flocks, at least no the pilots. Quite a few Saudi pilots did jump ship in the past year and a half. Why? Hummm..
Not sure, maybe somebody should ask AAD.
Cheers..
Nope, B737's not going out of kingdom.
The DC8 is being sold or has been.....Because a brand new B767-200ER has been purchased (N767A)...
Luke, my advise would be that if you have a decent job stay there...Trust me..
If you dont have a job, or a bad one....then go for it...
Expats in Dhahran are worried of course, but that hasnt made them leave in flocks, at least no the pilots. Quite a few Saudi pilots did jump ship in the past year and a half. Why? Hummm..
Not sure, maybe somebody should ask AAD.
Cheers..
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Saudi Aramco
Anyone out there with recent news regarding the Aramco flight department ? Any information with regard to schedule, work conditions, upgrades would be greatly appreciated.
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ARAMCO
I flew for ARAMCO from 1997-1999. I was an F/O on the B-737-200 and Capt on the DHC-6 and CE-500. Lot of changes there now. All Management pilots are now mostly Saudi. Flew around 50-60 hrs a month. 10 days off a month on average. I left to get on with a major airline in the States. Good housing and benefits.
Saudi living is very different than Dubai or elsewhere. Their fleet now has : 1 767 (Houston based) 5 737-700's 3 DHC-8's, 2 DHC-6's, 2 Hawkers, 1 CE-500 and about 20 Helos.
Saudi living is very different than Dubai or elsewhere. Their fleet now has : 1 767 (Houston based) 5 737-700's 3 DHC-8's, 2 DHC-6's, 2 Hawkers, 1 CE-500 and about 20 Helos.
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STEER CLEAR OF ARAMCO
I was a flight attendant there til july, and was about to quit/get fired, but as I ended up getting married anyway that took care of my decision as F/a's not allowed to be married.
Having worked in EK years ago, and many other much more prestigious companies-in a word dont do it!
Housing is crap, you feel like you are in some banal american town in nowheresville, but surrounded by every natioanlity under the sun.
The managers and chief pilots change non stop, people come and go and its pretty dirty politics all round, i heard it was once a good comp, but I wouldnt touch it with a bargpole now if i were you.
If you search in backdialogues, you will find overwhelming bad raps against this particular company......beware
Having worked in EK years ago, and many other much more prestigious companies-in a word dont do it!
Housing is crap, you feel like you are in some banal american town in nowheresville, but surrounded by every natioanlity under the sun.
The managers and chief pilots change non stop, people come and go and its pretty dirty politics all round, i heard it was once a good comp, but I wouldnt touch it with a bargpole now if i were you.
If you search in backdialogues, you will find overwhelming bad raps against this particular company......beware
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Revolving-door 'management', policies and procedures dominated by political/tribal infighting within the department, TOTAL lack of informatiion exchange between employer/employee (actually actively discouraged), no hope for upgrade, total lack of CRM and to cap it all off the reality of living in THE most repressive country in the world...hell, come on over! It's paradise!
Just don't say you weren't warned.
Just don't say you weren't warned.
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ARAMCO
I worked for Saudi ARAMCO aviation from 1997-1999. I flew the B-737, DHC-6 & CE-500. They were once considered a great organization to work for. Now things have changed quite a bit and I am hearing that it isnt that great anymore. All major top management is now Saudi as opposed to expats. Chief Pilot is Saudi. Good pay and compensation package. Housing is subsidized and you have no utilities. Schools are great. On camp living is like anyplace in the U.S. But when you leave the gates---you know you are not! Also consider the dangers of living there now as an expat. Abqaiq was just attacked on Friday. ARAMCO planes fly all over SA to these places. PM me if you have any other direct questions. They require a B.S. degree and about 4000 hrs. Plus time in any of the A/C they fly is a plus. Here are their minimum requirements:
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS:
Education: Four-year B.S./B.A. degree or 3000 flying hours. Valid Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate issued by the U.S. FAA to operate single and multi engine aircraft. First Class FAA Medical.
Experience: 8 years active flying. Minimum 4000 flight hours as a pilot and 7 years of active flying. Excellent command of written and oral English. 1000 hours as a Pilot in Command.
DUTIES/RESPONSIBILITIES:
Fly as a Captain on Saudi Aramco Dash-8 or Executive Jet aircraft for the purpose of conducting special or scheduled flight for corporate purposes.
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS:
Education: Four-year B.S./B.A. degree or 3000 flying hours. Valid Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate issued by the U.S. FAA to operate single and multi engine aircraft. First Class FAA Medical.
Experience: 8 years active flying. Minimum 4000 flight hours as a pilot and 7 years of active flying. Excellent command of written and oral English. 1000 hours as a Pilot in Command.
DUTIES/RESPONSIBILITIES:
Fly as a Captain on Saudi Aramco Dash-8 or Executive Jet aircraft for the purpose of conducting special or scheduled flight for corporate purposes.
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A friend of mine was (maybe still is) one of their Captains on their DC-8, but I think they've upgraded that to a B-767 or A-300...anyway, he loves it...great pay, schedule, crew, etc...
