Emirates FO or Qatar CPT
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Emirates FO or Qatar CPT
Hi,
I am currently flying as a Captain on the 737 in Norwegian and I have the option to join Emirates as a FO or Qatar Airways as Captain. What option do you think is the best? How long does it take for the upgrade in Emirates?
Many thanks.
I am currently flying as a Captain on the 737 in Norwegian and I have the option to join Emirates as a FO or Qatar Airways as Captain. What option do you think is the best? How long does it take for the upgrade in Emirates?
Many thanks.
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keep the captain - EK is 50/50 chance the promise of accelerated will come true - you never know what the think in 1,5 years - a promise, even written on paper has absolute no value
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You're basically telling you like Emirates more but Qatar gave you the better offer.
Essentially it depends what you look for in your job and life.
Qr offers more money and your captain position but absolutely no social/family life, brutal rosters and a very toxic working environment.
Ek offers less money, loss of command with little certainty of getting it back but a better lifestyle and more chances you'll actually do your job there still in a few years.
I'd probably stay wherever you are until EK is offering Dec positions if its Long Haul you're looking for, maybe look once at FZ if money is what you're after. Sometimes it's better to wait for a better offer, especially if you're already employed!
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I am honestly curious to hear why is EK such a better place, worth the risks associated with leaving 0A.
Eye of the beholder, sure, but what rings the pleasure bells? I could see the 'home every night' @DOH bears little weight, clear on that....
Eye of the beholder, sure, but what rings the pleasure bells? I could see the 'home every night' @DOH bears little weight, clear on that....
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Qatar is better money and generally a more respectable airline these days especially in the west. When I joined ek all those years ago, I never would have expected that Qatar would in fact become the biggest and best of the ME3. Doha will weather the next storm better than Dubai I’d say . $$$
accelerated command in emirates means absolutely nothing - a lot of Qantas guys had issues in their upgrade and the process for quick upgrades has been significantly slowed down since then.
accelerated command in emirates means absolutely nothing - a lot of Qantas guys had issues in their upgrade and the process for quick upgrades has been significantly slowed down since then.
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If you have to ask…. Like previous people stated never trust the quick upgrade- policies change rapidly.
while I think Dubai is a step above Doha , Qatar has done much to close the gap.
generally speaking I think terms and conditions are similar and sometimes favoring Qatar
I left Qatar- joined a very reputable cargo company in USA. Lots of Emirates guys coming- everyone happy to be away and now working here. On the other hand I have talked to handful of Qatar guys- many like me wish we hadn’t left
Seems like we hated Qatar a lot less than Emirates guys hated it there. They both have very similar management styles that can be a challenge
while I think Dubai is a step above Doha , Qatar has done much to close the gap.
generally speaking I think terms and conditions are similar and sometimes favoring Qatar
I left Qatar- joined a very reputable cargo company in USA. Lots of Emirates guys coming- everyone happy to be away and now working here. On the other hand I have talked to handful of Qatar guys- many like me wish we hadn’t left
Seems like we hated Qatar a lot less than Emirates guys hated it there. They both have very similar management styles that can be a challenge
Have you considered Norwegian?
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I am not going to comment on EK v QR. You will have to make your own judgement there.
But, as an expat (which you will be) never, ever give up your command unless there is no other option.
But, as an expat (which you will be) never, ever give up your command unless there is no other option.
Do what works for you and your family. That’s first in my book. If I need to walk away from this job I would to put them first.
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Either way, if you take one of these, you will likely be back here in 3 - 5 years trying to figure out how to return to the next best option in the motherland, but probably this time on lower pay, on the newest and ****tiest sub-contract of the lowcost airline you are now trying to leave. Been there, done that. Think twice, if you have family , an acceptable lifestyle in the middle east will cost you a ton of money that you will not be able to save, with zero job security.
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Some of us value lifestyle/family vs dollars and stripes. I changed employer about 15 years ago, was nervous with the medium/long term sustainability around the employer at the time, took a RHS with the competitor, got the upgrade 6 years on, and been happy ever since. My employer that I left is no longer in operation.
Do what works for you and your family. That’s first in my book. If I need to walk away from this job I would to put them first.
Do what works for you and your family. That’s first in my book. If I need to walk away from this job I would to put them first.
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If someone values lifestyle/family above dollars you would expect he/she would never consider middle east. Your children will be breathing one of the lowest quality air in the world(ask the question how many pilots children are allergy free) and will be spending more than 6 months of the year indoors. Yes maybe you can buy them the latest iphone and send them to good schools but you are exchanging more than you think.
