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Old 11th Dec 2022, 06:58
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Brian got money for turning a blind eye to the redundancies which he initially raised concerns of , corruption at its best. He has accepted a deal to replace many of those redundant guys with EZY plebs from summer 23 (which involves a little backhander!!!!) its funny how these people will tread on anybody for money!
EZY guys will come sooner, as EZY is closing a base in Germany
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 19:21
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EZY guys will come sooner, as EZY is closing a base in Germany
Talking about secondment I think
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 20:24
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Any idea why they don't include hours on A330? Same rating as A350 (EASA) and basically the same aircraft as A340.
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 05:45
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I'm sure 330 time would count....a rating one allows you to fly the other with a CCQ differences course.
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 05:50
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Why are the standards of those joining so so poor these days. Absolutely Shocking how far ek pilot standard has fallen.
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 20:02
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Why are the standards of those joining so so poor these days. Absolutely Shocking how far ek pilot standard has fallen.
because EK managers are too arrogant to apologize and take those redundants back without having stupid regulations.
you canít find 380 commanders out there, because most companies are bringing them back, so no need for a change. EK had all those 380 commanders but not taking them back. EK reputation is not good enough anymore to attract some 330/340 pilots with descent jobs where the live at home.
Only those from doggy contractor jobs are applying.
Most pilots on 350 work in solid companies so why should they go to the desert?


the real good ones have been let go, others never had the luck of getting proper high quality training and education are now lining up to get out of crab LCC jobs, with minimum and no experience. FO with long EK experience have also let got and not returning, mostly because they didnít get an invitation, rather being replaced by new ones.
This is like building up the fleet of airbus completely new, with new pilots. Overall experience has for sure drop significantly on that fleet.
What do expect?
long time ago 7000 total and between 2500 and 4000 jet had been required for FO.
Today 1500 is enough to land that gig.

There is a large difference in experience- not they canít learn it but it needs time. 15hr flying straight isnít exactly learning something and building experience.

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Old 13th Dec 2022, 05:21
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DECs usually end up back in the right seat in EK at some point. They are always treated as lessers by the company and their peers, I call them captains with a little c- high staff numbers and often temporarily to fill a problem within the company and upsetting all the FOs along the way.

they often aren't good enough to be EK skippers , been many poor ones over the years, Brian actually said this recently stating they 'had had the issues' Whens that tit leaving ?
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Old 13th Dec 2022, 10:06
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It will take years to build up the experience levels on the 380 back up to where they were in 2019 before it was all thrown away. Typical rosters inlcude 2 ULR trips and 2 or 3 to Europe or Asia, so 3 or 4 landings a month - in the last 2 months I've had 6 landings (and no leave or sims in that time, just line flying). If you are coming from a 320 operator with a couple of thousand hours it will take a long time to be "experienced" on the 380 at that rate.
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Old 13th Dec 2022, 14:49
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Originally Posted by BigGeordie View Post
It will take years to build up the experience levels on the 380 back up to where they were in 2019 before it was all thrown away. Typical rosters inlcude 2 ULR trips and 2 or 3 to Europe or Asia, so 3 or 4 landings a month - in the last 2 months I've had 6 landings (and no leave or sims in that time, just line flying). If you are coming from a 320 operator with a couple of thousand hours it will take a long time to be "experienced" on the 380 at that rate.
this well my opinion too.
apparently is it not the general EK opinion as they let go all that experience and now taking DEC. on the other hand complaining about having issues with narrow body DEC sounds awkward as they wonít admit having made a mistake.
so taking DEC and complaining is better than loosing the face, and correct the failure. Funny they try to teach aviators to learn from their mistake - whatís about the management are they learning from mistakes?
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Old 13th Dec 2022, 17:20
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EZY guys will come sooner, as EZY is closing a base in Germany
Closing? They've downsized three times, but no mention of complete closure. Source?
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Old 14th Dec 2022, 06:34
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Closing? They've downsized three times, but no mention of complete closure. Source?
they did downsize - but deceived to pull out completely
effected employee
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Old 14th Dec 2022, 19:02
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Originally Posted by flyTheBigFatLady View Post
they did downsize - but deceived to pull out completely
effected employee
as an affected employee from the first round Iíve seen nothing mentioning a complete base closure. Not sure where youíve got that from
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 05:54
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Originally Posted by TheAirMission View Post
as an affected employee from the first round Iíve seen nothing mentioning a complete base closure. Not sure where youíve got that from
itís what they do to make them feel better about their lives in Dubai Ölie
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 06:36
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Brian managed to bag himself some great cars from his own redundant pilots at knocked down rates in the pandemic! - if you dont believe this sh!t you are very naive, these people have, no ethics.


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Old 15th Dec 2022, 17:52
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Originally Posted by nimrodjoe;[url=tel:11348096
11348096[/url]]itís what they do to make them feel better about their lives in Dubai Ölie
Funny, I usually read here about Emirates to make myself feel better about flying for EasyjetÖin Berlin
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 18:50
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Funny, I usually read here about Emirates to make myself feel better about flying for EasyjetÖin Berlin

Germany or the Middle East Ö thatís a tough one Ö.
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 09:18
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Originally Posted by McToryMug View Post
Brian managed to bag himself some great cars from his own redundant pilots at knocked down rates in the pandemic! - if you dont believe this sh!t you are very naive, these people have, no ethics.
some of came with some sort of ethics but very quickly realize itís better for your own not to have some, and start changing and getting into the flow.
some will remember Ch. Mueller. Or even brain came and wanted to change for better. There we are in todays reality.
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 16:44
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Everything changes and nothing changes.
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 18:54
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Brian was buying up all the cheap gear in meydan that redundant pilots were selling , now he gets a huge bonus itís just brilliant isnít it
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 23:10
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Originally Posted by flyTheBigFatLady View Post
some of came with some sort of ethics but very quickly realize itís better for your own not to have some, and start changing and getting into the flow.
some will remember Ch. Mueller. Or even brain came and wanted to change for better. There we are in todays reality.
There will be people who remember when TCAS tried selling the old crates that the onboard wine came in to pilots. Itís a certain breed of humanity that inhabits the third floor.
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