Qatar salary reductions and redundancies 😬
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They still have not fired another 3500 people from all departments. They recently announced they have fired 15% and they will go up to 20%. After they stop terminations (and don't call it redundancy). Let's call it termination because this fits better on what they do. So after they stop I would guess at least over a year or 2 to start re-hiring again . They pay you 3 months salary plus accommodation allowance for 3 months if you were out of company accommodation. plus one month salary approximately for each year you have been in this beautiful place Very nice place, unless you have no choice in the future to join another airline you can always come back if they call you. but I believe when this dumpster will start rehiring, many other companies around the world will start at the same time. So why to go back to this crap ? I would never myself but anyone can make his choice. It was not a decent job. even before the virus came. Rosters were crap before the virus. People would fly exhausted. Same now on some fleets like 777. but they do not care. I have never realized why they cannot manage an efficient roster.
They still have not fired another 3500 people from all departments. They recently announced they have fired 15% and they will go up to 20%. After they stop terminations (and don't call it redundancy). Let's call it termination because this fits better on what they do. So after they stop I would guess at least over a year or 2 to start re-hiring again . They pay you 3 months salary plus accommodation allowance for 3 months if you were out of company accommodation. plus one month salary approximately for each year you have been in this beautiful place Very nice place, unless you have no choice in the future to join another airline you can always come back if they call you. but I believe when this dumpster will start rehiring, many other companies around the world will start at the same time. So why to go back to this crap ? I would never myself but anyone can make his choice. It was not a decent job. even before the virus came. Rosters were crap before the virus. People would fly exhausted. Same now on some fleets like 777. but they do not care. I have never realized why they cannot manage an efficient roster.
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I know the game now!
"Habibi" told me me that the new Zapattero, or let say the new Greek VPFO got his job by having help a lot the company to find out all the whatsapp groups' users, basicaly name your colleague, you will be promoted! What a safe culture!
Talking about safe culture, the QR safety culture is like the Coronavirus, "Pathological" : who cares as long as the flight departs on time.
Have you see hiw many guys reporting a safety events are punished! It is just a formal and superficial safety culture...
Talking about promotion, QR flight safety: promote it, but promote the manager whose gonna use it against you!
How many guys today are flying fatigue, exhausted, scared to death, mentally impaired for not having seen their families?
"Habibi" told me me that the new Zapattero, or let say the new Greek VPFO got his job by having help a lot the company to find out all the whatsapp groups' users, basicaly name your colleague, you will be promoted! What a safe culture!
Talking about safe culture, the QR safety culture is like the Coronavirus, "Pathological" : who cares as long as the flight departs on time.
Have you see hiw many guys reporting a safety events are punished! It is just a formal and superficial safety culture...
Talking about promotion, QR flight safety: promote it, but promote the manager whose gonna use it against you!
How many guys today are flying fatigue, exhausted, scared to death, mentally impaired for not having seen their families?
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you are right he is Maltese he used to be in QR before he left and come back again, he is an ex EK, after been drop in the dump by EK QR pick him up as usual, QR loves to pick up the garbage from Ek.
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While I don’t know what is going on in QR, I will say that the individual to which you refer was hugely respected and liked within EK. He was not “dumped” but rather left for his own, personal, reasons.
He was a man of great character.
With that in mind, I wouldn’t so readily believe rumours spread by those with unknown motives, habibi or otherwise.
He was a man of great character.
With that in mind, I wouldn’t so readily believe rumours spread by those with unknown motives, habibi or otherwise.
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It looks like you know a lot about this guy. Is he your friend ? then it is absolutely normal to defend him But someone who left EK to go to QR and then left QR to come back again sounds rather what Ticker1 describes and not what you write above. Very unstable professional.. probably he was ex Etihad too.. Tell us more please about him.. looks like you know him well
It looks like you know a lot about this guy. Is he your friend ? then it is absolutely normal to defend him But someone who left EK to go to QR and then left QR to come back again sounds rather what Ticker1 describes and not what you write above. Very unstable professional.. probably he was ex Etihad too.. Tell us more please about him.. looks like you know him well
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yep. agree with luv 2ns. Was not the typical brown nose guy in EK...I think he got tired of all the BS over here...Lets not forget that a while back, QR was considered a better option than EK...(unlike 15 years ago...)
Must be, what it is 4 to 5 years ago he left? I lost track....
Respectable gentleman
Must be, what it is 4 to 5 years ago he left? I lost track....
Respectable gentleman
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Well as VPFO he had all the tools to make the pilot group redundancy more fair but instead he hide behind his desk with no communication, while man power (ex CC) do his job in choosing the FD’s,
A man should be measure for his leadership in crisis not in good times.
A man should be measure for his leadership in crisis not in good times.
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As mentioned, I have no awareness of what is going on in QR, nor am I trying to stir any pot. I feel for those who have lost their livelihood. I lost my position at EK last year. I am simply giving an alternative view of the gentleman in question, a view that many ex-colleagues in EK would share.
Perhaps he has done the things mentioned, or perhaps he hasn’t. I do realise that this is a rumour network where, sadly, decency seems to be in short supply, however the vilification of individuals does not sit well with me, hence my post.
In any case, I wish you all good luck and hope to see you back in the air soon.
Perhaps he has done the things mentioned, or perhaps he hasn’t. I do realise that this is a rumour network where, sadly, decency seems to be in short supply, however the vilification of individuals does not sit well with me, hence my post.
In any case, I wish you all good luck and hope to see you back in the air soon.
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Your point of view about him comes from a long time ago, in another position, in another airline.
Your "beloved" gentleman has taken a long way since then.
Can you guarantee he is the same person today?
Greediness... Greediness is the answer....
People lie, people change, he was probably a nice fellow, as Zapata was at EK as I heard, before coming here.
I have asked habibi about Greek... Maltese...
Habibi said he doesn't care much, we are all the same bunch of slaves.
But I should have paid myself more attention to the correct nationality, I guess because there was also a Greek Captain who has given a lot of names out of those Whatsapp group, and that guy is still on the crew list....
Your point of view about him comes from a long time ago, in another position, in another airline.
Your "beloved" gentleman has taken a long way since then.
Can you guarantee he is the same person today?
Greediness... Greediness is the answer....
People lie, people change, he was probably a nice fellow, as Zapata was at EK as I heard, before coming here.
I have asked habibi about Greek... Maltese...
Habibi said he doesn't care much, we are all the same bunch of slaves.
But I should have paid myself more attention to the correct nationality, I guess because there was also a Greek Captain who has given a lot of names out of those Whatsapp group, and that guy is still on the crew list....
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Can someone explain me why the 777 is flying as much as the 350, and way more than the 787.... And why there was roughly 100 skipers less on the 777 between May20 and Dec20?
And only 40 on the 787?
Is there anyone in control of this non-sense?
And only 40 on the 787?
Is there anyone in control of this non-sense?
Very likely - closely followed by re-employment on new contracts. The 777 fleet will set the standard of how the company treats the remaining workforce. The fleet is growing, the hours are being ramped, alot of crew - esp FOs have outstanding leave, active crew are approaching max yearly hours! Its going to be interesting times in the next 6 months. The Flight Decks attitude of " lets help the company through hard times " has all but disappeared. The age old adage of "you reap what you sow" will be felt by QR this year.
On one positive note in regards to the arrival of the Maltese is that it got rid of that Italian. How he still walking is a mystery
On one positive note in regards to the arrival of the Maltese is that it got rid of that Italian. How he still walking is a mystery