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Old 1st Nov 2021, 11:28
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Absolute rubbish. There is no external recruitment at EK. All the applications are going into a hold pool for when it does start. And that little gem is straight from the camels mouth.

But hey don’t let facts destroy your story!

Im in no way defending how the process was managed but they will be bringing back those they want before externals.
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 02:08
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Flyfast123... that's good.. I wish EK does not hire externals before taking into consideration their redundant pilots. That would be a shame for EK and for QR as well. Only reason I would say is acceptable for not calling a redundant crew is final warning letter and multiple simulator or line check failures. (let's say more than one failure).
As far as the numbers ... There were 4100 pilots at QR before covid. maybe 4150 if I remember correctly. Nothing less than 4050 for sure and I can dig and find it at the company's old magazine issues. When the reduction started about 1500-1600 got redundant ... that's my number and sorry if I disagree with Winged Lion.
So let's say the number was 2600 in the first quarter of 2021. In May they started rehiring by calling a few people. There is no way according to the numbers described at the previous post above that QR has hired and retrained 800 people from June until now. It is only 5 months. Actually Wing Lions says that QR rehired 800 pilots in 4 months. That's not even possible from the recruitment department to handle such a huge number. Come on let's be realistic... Many of them got from the Airbus a Boeing type rating which mean lengthy process. All of them need at least one and a half month of training regardless fleet change or not. The ones with a fleet change need several months. QR is not capable to train so many pilots from June until end of October ... In five months.. 800 people. It is not possible... Even half of it it is not possible.
Wing Lion if you disagree let's discuss it. I might be wrong. It is a discussion here and not an argument. Thanks

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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 06:39
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Much of the training for type conversions has been outsourced.
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 06:41
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Don't forget attrition levels are apparently still high amongst the 777 fleet.
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 09:01
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Hey guys, Just wanted to know for QR, if someone has a warning letter, what are the chances of being called back? Thanks
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 14:19
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People with warning letters have been called back already. If it was a final warning then it is different, but you never know....
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 16:05
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qrteria in qr ain't something logical, nor fair

The so called qsense. You should know that!
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Old 9th Nov 2021, 00:09
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Ahh the Qsense - that a good one. No rhyme of reason - just complete knee jerk reaction to events.
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Old 9th Nov 2021, 04:15
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That wasn't some chap, that was just some . Probably of the same ilk who find it amusing to meaow on guard radio at 3AM.
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Old 20th Nov 2021, 10:53
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Do they still recall redundant pilot? Heard that they will maybe start with external recruitment after the new year.
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Old 21st Nov 2021, 03:03
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Yes, redundant pilots are still rejoining. It’s gonna take some time yet. Meanwhile, company will prepare to start external hiring, first focusing on type rated experienced pilots.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 22:48
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I cannot understand how QR will start external hiring especially in 2022. That sounds like a joke ... They have more than 800 redundant pilots on the list to call back. Also the new covid variant from Africa brought new problems..
If they do it , it will be something like what EK did. Express of interest but no actual hiring
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Old 28th Nov 2021, 04:34
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https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idINC6N2R5024
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Old 1st Dec 2021, 13:51
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They probably don't want all the 600 back I reckon, it's the middle east after all they like to pick and choose and the smallest misdemeanor in their eyes (like being in a naughty Whatsapp group) and you're permanently banished. Qsense as someone said above.
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Old 1st Dec 2021, 15:15
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Who knows the logic? There is none. I know people with active warning letters that are already back.
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Old 1st Dec 2021, 18:14
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Referring to 600? What is that? There was the first 600 at EK , are you saying that QR did the same or only 600 total at QR ?
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Old 1st Dec 2021, 18:56
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[(like being in a naughty Whatsapp group) and you're permanently banished.

Yea.... managers really worked hard to look into WhatsApp groups...Trust me, in most groups, it was only an exchange of everyday life in Doha, Not much about the company, Only when the pandemic began people started to question what decision would the company take. But hey it's better to call a 63-year-old captain and bond him for 3 years ( age limit is 65) or a pilot with warning letters.
Makes us understand how bad they handled everything.
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Old 1st Dec 2021, 19:06
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I just think that they want to understand how much demand is out there. How many people are willing to go to the ME. Ek opened for external pilots during the summer... wouldn't be surprised QR copied them. Monkey see, monkey do
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Old 1st Dec 2021, 22:12
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Correct...
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Old 4th Dec 2021, 01:07
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Maybe they are going through the rehiring process by seniority. so your opinion is 63 years old pilot with over 12 years of experience in Qatar Airways should be called back?

Anyone who is over 55 years old has less chance to get a job in other companies so their hope is to get back to Qatar Airways.
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