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Commuting while working for Qatar?

Old 30th Aug 2019, 19:53
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Commuting while working for Qatar?

I'm considering making the move to the ME because I want to get a head start when I reach my 30s finance wise. I do have my life pretty wel set up here in Europe though. My colleagues claim that the Qatar bidding system is so good that you can easily spend 7 consecutive days at home a month.
Does anyone care to shed some light on this matter? Greatly appreciated!
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Old 30th Aug 2019, 21:54
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Originally Posted by NeverStopTrying View Post
I'm considering making the move to the ME because I want to get a head start when I reach my 30s finance wise. I do have my life pretty wel set up here in Europe though. My colleagues claim that the Qatar bidding system is so good that you can easily spend 7 consecutive days at home a month.
Does anyone care to shed some light on this matter? Greatly appreciated!

depends on which fleet FO or CAP .
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 10:52
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depends on which fleet FO or CAP .
777 or 787 FO position.
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 12:20
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777 or 787 FO position.
Can't speak about the 787
But 777 getting 7 days in a row without using your leave days it is impossible some pilots they try to use 7 days of their leave every other month since you have 42 days per year
And with no leave you can get up to 6 days in a row using the bidding system but if you will.be lucky and get it one month don't expect you will get it again FO roster on 777 is heavy now .
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 13:14
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You might see rosters that give 5-7 days off in a row. Trouble is that's now. The airline is dynamic - very dynamic and the situation can change very quickly by the addition of a few new aeroplanes on short notice ( 74-8) as example, or the delay cancellation of more metal that was already in the commercial plan.
Do not join Qatar with the expectation of a commuting contract.
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 13:48
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Very wise word from CDRW
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 16:30
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You might see rosters that give 5-7 days off in a row. Trouble is that's now. The airline is dynamic - very dynamic and the situation can change very quickly by the addition of a few new aeroplanes on short notice ( 74-8) as example, or the delay cancellation of more metal that was already in the commercial plan.
Do not join Qatar with the expectation of a commuting contract.
Thank you. I will heed your advise.
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 17:40
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777 FO here.

Commuting is not an option.
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 20:09
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All the Khaleegi Airlines abhor even the thought of the word commute. Because there, you are not just a pilot. You're a slave in a golden cage!!! So think carefully and wisely!
Once you enter this harram al what even airline you chose!!... you give our body and your soul to them!! Khalas!! commuting is not an option! An you will be heavily sanctioned if you try to out side of what they allow!!..........AND THEY DON'T Care! There is no humanity here!!
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 08:28
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Originally Posted by Papa_Golf View Post
777 FO here.

Commuting is not an option.
How is working for them? I've been hearing very mixed reviews.
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 08:29
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Originally Posted by Seamin Stains View Post
All the Khaleegi Airlines abhor even the thought of the word commute. Because there, you are not just a pilot. You're a slave in a golden cage!!! So think carefully and wisely!
Once you enter this harram al what even airline you chose!!... you give our body and your soul to them!! Khalas!! commuting is not an option! An you will be heavily sanctioned if you try to out side of what they allow!!..........AND THEY DON'T Care! There is no humanity here!!
Damn dude, easy now. Why not just leave if you hate it so much? I'm not advocating them at all, still on the fence about joining. It's good money...
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 09:43
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Bear in mind the contract is non-commuting.

Nowadays some people might be able to commute due to a more relaxed roster on their fleet, but things change constantly in Qatar Airways, so what is happening now might not be in one year.

The only things guaranteed are 4 consecutive days off per month and 42 days annual leave, which you can divide into up to 7 periods of 6 days (which count for 7 days actually because they also guarantee one day off after each 6 day leave period). You can try to use the bidding system to get up to 6 consecutive days off in a month or add more days off before/after your leave, but there's no guarantee you'll get that even though the system generally works pretty well. Just don't count on that happening every month.
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 10:34
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How is working for them? I've been hearing very mixed reviews.
It’s allright. Good salary and benefits. Demanding rosters sometimes but not nearly as bad as 2018. Training and checking is straightforward and most of the time very relaxed.

Working and living in the ME is ups and downs.

My mrs is also working in Doha, so I have no urge to go home on my days off.
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 15:56
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because I want to get a head start when I reach my 30s finance wise
I’m laughing at this. God bless you, kiddo! 😊
Your Facebook pics will be the same as the rest of us.
“Me in my Audi R8”
”Me in dah club”
“Barbecue night at the Shangri-La”
”My Russian girlfriend”
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 16:18
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Papa G but it succinctly. If you go there and dont give it a chance and unable to change you will hate it.

Can you get back to europe on a regular basis ( we dont use the swear word 'commute') - absolutely - but it's on a month to month - or roster to roster- basis. The airline is expanding and many more cities are being added or frequencies being increased.

Stay away from getting the flashy car, the regular brunches, and partying like a banshee and the $ or € will be good.
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 16:46
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I’m laughing at this. God bless you, kiddo! 😊
Your Facebook pics will be the same as the rest of us.
“Me in my Audi R8”
”Me in dah club”
“Barbecue night at the Shangri-La”
”My Russian girlfriend”
I'm not into any of those things. The missus definitely won't like the Russian girlfriend part.
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 16:47
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It’s allright. Good salary and benefits. Demanding rosters sometimes but not nearly as bad as 2018. Training and checking is straightforward and most of the time very relaxed.

Working and living in the ME is ups and downs.

My mrs is also working in Doha, so I have no urge to go home on my days off.
Much appreciated. It's good to hear different perspectives. Cheers.
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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 04:10
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Originally Posted by Papa_Golf View Post
My mrs is also working in Doha, so I have no urge to go home on my days off.
Is that an easy enough option Papa Golf? My Mrs will want to work too but not sure of the legalities of that? Is she tied to your work permit?

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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 06:05
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Is that an easy enough option Papa Golf? My Mrs will want to work too but not sure of the legalities of that? Is she tied to your work permit?

Cheers
Yes she is tied to my resident permit. In her case it made the hiring process simpler and faster.

I would not say is an easy task to get a job unless your wife is lucky enough to possess some very specific qualifications that might be needed locally. But legally speaking she can get a job.

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Old 4th Sep 2019, 22:10
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Originally Posted by NeverStopTrying View Post
I'm considering making the move to the ME because I want to get a head start when I reach my 30s finance wise. I do have my life pretty wel set up here in Europe though. My colleagues claim that the Qatar bidding system is so good that you can easily spend 7 consecutive days at home a month.
Does anyone care to shed some light on this matter? Greatly appreciated!

I try to "commute" to UK (Capt T7). I spread out my annual leave in 5 blocks of 6 leave plus days off and take 1 block of 12 days (plus days off) for a family holiday.
But there are 9 flights per day to London (LHR&LGW) which makes it a lot easier. It cannot be easy to do so to a place with only 1 flight per day or if I was on a SH fleet. So you are covered for 6 months a year which suits me as can't do more than 90 in UK. The other 6 you are at the mercy of rostering giving you your requested 6 days off (only 4 are guaranteed) or using ULR rest patterns to sneak away for a few days.

Best of luck,

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