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Which flight school in UAE?

Old 9th May 2018, 15:07
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Which flight school in UAE?

Hello guys, Iím currently a 17 year old Filipino (does my nationality matter in flight schools) who lives and Iím doing my GCSEs. I of course want to be a pilot. I was looking around at the options here for Flight schools.

Iíve looked at Alpha Aviation Academy in Sharjah (AED 590k). They have an ďAlpha MPL Cadet Pilot ProgrammeĒ, which I think passes you on to Air Arabia to get 1500 hours on their A320.

The other place Iíve looked at is Emirates Aviation University (AED 595k). They have a ďEASA Approved ATPL, AB-INTIO Pilot TrainingĒ, which also comes with a degree in Air Transport Management (I donít think AAA does), but I donít think theyíll pass you on to any airline.

Is any of these worth it? Or should I look into other flight schools maybe outside of the UAE? Iíve heard about the Alpha Aviation Academy in Philippines and I think thereís a Kansas State University Pilot Training Programme too.


Thank you
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Old 10th May 2018, 07:20
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Hi Miguel and welcome to PPRuNe.

Having come to the UAE as a type rated pilot I have no experience of either of the schools you mention, but what I am going to say applies anywhere in the world when it comes to flight training.

590,000 Aed is a huge investment for most people, and if it doesn't lead to a job then I would be very careful
of doing it here, so if the MPL scheme guarantees a job with Air Arabia then that has to be the one to go for, as otherwise you will have a GCAA CPL with very little chance of finding work with it, as there is virtually no general aviation in the UAE, so you are effectively limited to the four airlines. Of those you might get onto flydubai's second officer scheme, but I think that Emirates and Etihad only recruit low houred pilots if they are UAE citizens.

My reccomendatuon would be to look at options abroad. You could certainly obtain an FAA or EASA licence for a lot less money, and it would probably be far more widely recognised around the world if you are seeking work outside of the UAE.

And just to return once again to what I said earlier, be very wary of schemes which
lead to a CPL and type-rating with no guarantee of a job. With 250 hours (or less) and a CPL you are, unfortunately, barely employable. If you can't find work immediately it will be cheaper to keep
a single crew IR and MEP/SEP current than a Boeing/Airbus type rating.whatever you do, good luck...
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Old 10th May 2018, 15:14
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excrab;

Thanks for your advise, which flight schools abroad would you personally recommend? Or is there any cadetships that accept international students?
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 08:27
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You rather go for your training in DUB than elsewhere

Firstly understand in Europe if you're not white then you're gonna have some tough times(I lived in and I'm not afraid to speak out my opinion : understand this vary depending on personality and can be different for you, you can avoid this unless you can pay for some rich kids school where your money hides your color).

Secondly, Emirates aviation college DELIVERS an EASA Pilot License. Because they send you to Portugal/Spain to get your practical training.

Thirdly there's an advantage with them, with increasing pilot opportunities in DUB, you get a job offer instantly after school, if you pm me I could give you the fb of a friend who is flying for Norwegian Airline two weeks after leaving school.

Fourthly, something not many know right now EMR has a lot of A320s sleeping without pilots. So just like this friend am referring of, final check of your A320 is not in sim but on a real A320 with a captain next to you.

I've had experience with modular schools in Europe, some will be really expensive but they'll go by your pace. Some like in HU are really cheap but understand that in those kind of schools I've had an instructor who was insulting me in the cockpit on my second day because I was not able to land the plane like I should (I'll take it professionally as if it's me who doesn't have the level and aptitude to learn at the pace of those schools).

Furthermore, understand the cheaper you pay, the more likely you're gonna have trouble. For eg, there's a mentality in some places in HU where they hate Turkish students but not their money, they take those kids with aspiring dreams and sacrifices they made(I've seen some in tears and I can understand their pain) at 20 hours they tell you you're not good enough and flying is not made for you. At 20 hours or more I think some of them are already bankrupted since they have low currencies. I've seen a lot of this with my experience in Aviation.

My only advice to you, go somewhere out there and get a PPL/LAPL. Then fly recreationally till you've built confidence enough like as if you could fly this plane same as your car. In the meanwhile save money for a really good academy and also built experience. Back at school you'll pick things quicker because else you'll be paying more.

Aviation works in two ways : Either you get your license from some cheap academy and queue up in the line till a job opportunity comes up, or use that queueing time to save and get licenses from top notch academies and then straight placement into the cockpit !

Something important, according to me you're really young(GCSE or something). Understand you can't make a career as an airline pilot for 45 years, it gets too boring pushing buttons and same procedures at some time and this is not good for safety of souls you're transporting. If you get your trainings done by 35 should be the best since right then you're mature enough for this job as in today's cockpit its all about discipline and taking decisions. The rest is done by the onboard system.

GOOD LUCK !
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 08:38
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Originally Posted by CHEASApilot View Post
Thirdly there's an advantage with them, with increasing pilot opportunities in DUB, you get a job offer instantly after school, if you pm me I could give you the fb of a friend who is flying for Norwegian Airline two weeks after leaving school.

Norwegian hasn't taken a single cadet in over a year, nearly 2. So can you substantiate this in any way?
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 09:02
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I shouldn't be proving since we're all anonymous here but i sent this guy a msg on fb to confirm my statement. I'll wait for the answer and try putting a print screen here. But it still doesn't change the other facts that EAC are being placed as cadets.
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 10:19
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Originally Posted by SpainHire View Post
Norwegian hasn't taken a single cadet in over a year, nearly 2. So can you substantiate this in any way?
You were right, this guy is flying for a sub-emirate airline which deals online with gulf flights where they acquire experience on jet aircrafts. My apologies for non-accurate informations.
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 15:03
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Originally Posted by CHEASApilot View Post
Firstly understand in Europe if you're not white then you're gonna have some tough times(I lived in and I'm not afraid to speak out my opinion : understand this vary depending on personality and can be different for you, you can avoid this unless you can pay for some rich kids school where your money hides your color).

Secondly, Emirates aviation college DELIVERS an EASA Pilot License. Because they send you to Portugal/Spain to get your practical training.

Thirdly there's an advantage with them, with increasing pilot opportunities in DUB, you get a job offer instantly after school, if you pm me I could give you the fb of a friend who is flying for Norwegian Airline two weeks after leaving school.

Fourthly, something not many know right now EMR has a lot of A320s sleeping without pilots. So just like this friend am referring of, final check of your A320 is not in sim but on a real A320 with a captain next to you.

I've had experience with modular schools in Europe, some will be really expensive but they'll go by your pace. Some like in HU are really cheap but understand that in those kind of schools I've had an instructor who was insulting me in the cockpit on my second day because I was not able to land the plane like I should (I'll take it professionally as if it's me who doesn't have the level and aptitude to learn at the pace of those schools).

Furthermore, understand the cheaper you pay, the more likely you're gonna have trouble. For eg, there's a mentality in some places in HU where they hate Turkish students but not their money, they take those kids with aspiring dreams and sacrifices they made(I've seen some in tears and I can understand their pain) at 20 hours they tell you you're not good enough and flying is not made for you. At 20 hours or more I think some of them are already bankrupted since they have low currencies. I've seen a lot of this with my experience in Aviation.

My only advice to you, go somewhere out there and get a PPL/LAPL. Then fly recreationally till you've built confidence enough like as if you could fly this plane same as your car. In the meanwhile save money for a really good academy and also built experience. Back at school you'll pick things quicker because else you'll be paying more.

Aviation works in two ways : Either you get your license from some cheap academy and queue up in the line till a job opportunity comes up, or use that queueing time to save and get licenses from top notch academies and then straight placement into the cockpit !

Something important, according to me you're really young(GCSE or something). Understand you can't make a career as an airline pilot for 45 years, it gets too boring pushing buttons and same procedures at some time and this is not good for safety of souls you're transporting. If you get your trainings done by 35 should be the best since right then you're mature enough for this job as in today's cockpit its all about discipline and taking decisions. The rest is done by the onboard system.

GOOD LUCK !
hi , you Said that pilots jobs is restricted for white people only, does this apply Also for a foreigner ( tunisian pilot non born in europe ) with a european citizenship ??
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Old 29th Aug 2019, 03:28
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go to the USA, or Australia, or look into Clark in your home country, Dubai would be the last choice....unless you just have buckets of money to throw away
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