Time for the annual pay rise historic comparison post.
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Time for the annual pay rise historic comparison post.
Time for the Annual Pay raise comparison post 2018.
To put it in historical perspective - Pay increases /bonus since 2000. I have combined step or lack thereof in the increase number and called it an increase for simplicity (yes I know step is not an increase)
I do not have profit share or Edu support allowance numbers from 2000-2007. 2000-2007 numbers were provided by a colleague
05/00
3%
05/01
5%
05/02
6%
05/03
3%
05/04
5%
05/05
11%
05/06,
10%
05/07
9%
Pay raise/profit share/Edu/housing since May 2008
05/08
12% 14 wks
05/09
0% 0 wks - GF Crisis - OT threshold 78>92
05/10
6% 3wks
05/11 (edu fund 32-40/54-60)
8% 12wks
05/12
3%
05/13 (edu fund 40-42/60-63)
3.5%
05/14 (staff travel erosion)
3% 3wks (edu 42-46/63-70) housing up to16075pm for CAPTs, 14325pm FOs
05/15
3% 9wks (edu 46-47.5/70-72.5) OT thresh 92>88h
05/16
3% 5wks (Steps + for Snr Capts, flying pay ^ +,ground pay, sim pay)
05/17
0% (The email of "all group pay on hold - no target this year")
2012-13 prof target 3.5bn dhs (achvd 3.1bn) 10/5/13 - Target not achieved - no profit share
13/14 target 4.22bn (1st half 2.2bn) 8/5/14 - 4.1bn achieved - Target not achieved- 3 weeks profit share
2014/15 target 3.7bn (rwy closure) 1st half achieved 2.2bn - 2nd 3.2b for a total of 5.5bn - 9 weeks profit share
2015/16 target 7.7bn (1st half 3.7 achieved - total 8bn) 5 wks profit share
2016/17 target 7.2bn - Trump factor - Muslims/laptops banned.
(1st half 1.3 achieved-total 2.5). Pay on hold.
2017/18
(1st half 2.3bn). No target.
If you work the numbers, we are down significantly - in the double digits.
Further - JESS, one of the ESA benchmark schools have just announced fee increases for next year. DESC & DC to follow.
I won’t even get into VAT
What happens in the next few weeks will define the new leadership of BBJ & H’s legitimacy with the troops. Good men both, of that no doubt.
But If they don’t convince ATC & STC, the real powers that be - to focus on retention over recruitment - the exodus will continue as the aircraft keep coming.
At some point it will become very messy. The fact that STC has admitted to being short pilots tells you that we are short the absolute minimum to run the roster by 150. Plenty of guys resigning end of May for 3 month notice to coincide with new school year elsewhere.
On profit share because there was no target - anything above a $1 profit must be fed into the ‘ABOVE TARGET’ profit share matrix and thus should result in a generous profit share. I say SHOULD. I’m guessing group annual profit of Dhs 5bn + based on first half & leadership comments.
Open to correction on my numbers.
To put it in historical perspective - Pay increases /bonus since 2000. I have combined step or lack thereof in the increase number and called it an increase for simplicity (yes I know step is not an increase)
I do not have profit share or Edu support allowance numbers from 2000-2007. 2000-2007 numbers were provided by a colleague
05/00
3%
05/01
5%
05/02
6%
05/03
3%
05/04
5%
05/05
11%
05/06,
10%
05/07
9%
Pay raise/profit share/Edu/housing since May 2008
05/08
12% 14 wks
05/09
0% 0 wks - GF Crisis - OT threshold 78>92
05/10
6% 3wks
05/11 (edu fund 32-40/54-60)
8% 12wks
05/12
3%
05/13 (edu fund 40-42/60-63)
3.5%
05/14 (staff travel erosion)
3% 3wks (edu 42-46/63-70) housing up to16075pm for CAPTs, 14325pm FOs
05/15
3% 9wks (edu 46-47.5/70-72.5) OT thresh 92>88h
05/16
3% 5wks (Steps + for Snr Capts, flying pay ^ +,ground pay, sim pay)
05/17
0% (The email of "all group pay on hold - no target this year")
2012-13 prof target 3.5bn dhs (achvd 3.1bn) 10/5/13 - Target not achieved - no profit share
13/14 target 4.22bn (1st half 2.2bn) 8/5/14 - 4.1bn achieved - Target not achieved- 3 weeks profit share
2014/15 target 3.7bn (rwy closure) 1st half achieved 2.2bn - 2nd 3.2b for a total of 5.5bn - 9 weeks profit share
2015/16 target 7.7bn (1st half 3.7 achieved - total 8bn) 5 wks profit share
2016/17 target 7.2bn - Trump factor - Muslims/laptops banned.
(1st half 1.3 achieved-total 2.5). Pay on hold.
2017/18
(1st half 2.3bn). No target.
If you work the numbers, we are down significantly - in the double digits.
Further - JESS, one of the ESA benchmark schools have just announced fee increases for next year. DESC & DC to follow.
I won’t even get into VAT
What happens in the next few weeks will define the new leadership of BBJ & H’s legitimacy with the troops. Good men both, of that no doubt.
But If they don’t convince ATC & STC, the real powers that be - to focus on retention over recruitment - the exodus will continue as the aircraft keep coming.
At some point it will become very messy. The fact that STC has admitted to being short pilots tells you that we are short the absolute minimum to run the roster by 150. Plenty of guys resigning end of May for 3 month notice to coincide with new school year elsewhere.
On profit share because there was no target - anything above a $1 profit must be fed into the ‘ABOVE TARGET’ profit share matrix and thus should result in a generous profit share. I say SHOULD. I’m guessing group annual profit of Dhs 5bn + based on first half & leadership comments.
Open to correction on my numbers.
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Time for the Annual Pay raise comparison post 2018.
To put it in historical perspective - Pay increases /bonus since 2000. I have combined step or lack thereof in the increase number and called it an increase for simplicity (yes I know step is not an increase)
I do not have profit share or Edu support allowance numbers from 2000-2007. 2000-2007 numbers were provided by a colleague
05/00
3%
05/01
5%
05/02
6%
05/03
3%
05/04
5%
05/05
11%
05/06,
10%
05/07
9%
Pay raise/profit share/Edu/housing since May 2008
05/08
12% 14 wks
05/09
0% 0 wks - GF Crisis - OT threshold 78>92
05/10
6% 3wks
05/11 (edu fund 32-40/54-60)
8% 12wks
05/12
3%
05/13 (edu fund 40-42/60-63)
3.5%
05/14 (staff travel erosion)
3% 3wks (edu 42-46/63-70) housing up to16075pm for CAPTs, 14325pm FOs
05/15
3% 9wks (edu 46-47.5/70-72.5) OT thresh 92>88h
05/16
3% 5wks (Steps + for Snr Capts, flying pay ^ +,ground pay, sim pay)
05/17
0% (The email of "all group pay on hold - no target this year")
2012-13 prof target 3.5bn dhs (achvd 3.1bn) 10/5/13 - Target not achieved - no profit share
13/14 target 4.22bn (1st half 2.2bn) 8/5/14 - 4.1bn achieved - Target not achieved- 3 weeks profit share
2014/15 target 3.7bn (rwy closure) 1st half achieved 2.2bn - 2nd 3.2b for a total of 5.5bn - 9 weeks profit share
2015/16 target 7.7bn (1st half 3.7 achieved - total 8bn) 5 wks profit share
2016/17 target 7.2bn - Trump factor - Muslims/laptops banned.
(1st half 1.3 achieved-total 2.5). Pay on hold.
2017/18
(1st half 2.3bn). No target.
If you work the numbers, we are down significantly - in the double digits.
Further - JESS, one of the ESA benchmark schools have just announced fee increases for next year. DESC & DC to follow.
I won’t even get into VAT
What happens in the next few weeks will define the new leadership of BBJ & H’s legitimacy with the troops. Good men both, of that no doubt.
But If they don’t convince ATC & STC, the real powers that be - to focus on retention over recruitment - the exodus will continue as the aircraft keep coming.
At some point it will become very messy. The fact that STC has admitted to being short pilots tells you that we are short the absolute minimum to run the roster by 150. Plenty of guys resigning end of May for 3 month notice to coincide with new school year elsewhere.
On profit share because there was no target - anything above a $1 profit must be fed into the ‘ABOVE TARGET’ profit share matrix and thus should result in a generous profit share. I say SHOULD. I’m guessing group annual profit of Dhs 5bn + based on first half & leadership comments.
Open to correction on my numbers.
To put it in historical perspective - Pay increases /bonus since 2000. I have combined step or lack thereof in the increase number and called it an increase for simplicity (yes I know step is not an increase)
I do not have profit share or Edu support allowance numbers from 2000-2007. 2000-2007 numbers were provided by a colleague
05/00
3%
05/01
5%
05/02
6%
05/03
3%
05/04
5%
05/05
11%
05/06,
10%
05/07
9%
Pay raise/profit share/Edu/housing since May 2008
05/08
12% 14 wks
05/09
0% 0 wks - GF Crisis - OT threshold 78>92
05/10
6% 3wks
05/11 (edu fund 32-40/54-60)
8% 12wks
05/12
3%
05/13 (edu fund 40-42/60-63)
3.5%
05/14 (staff travel erosion)
3% 3wks (edu 42-46/63-70) housing up to16075pm for CAPTs, 14325pm FOs
05/15
3% 9wks (edu 46-47.5/70-72.5) OT thresh 92>88h
05/16
3% 5wks (Steps + for Snr Capts, flying pay ^ +,ground pay, sim pay)
05/17
0% (The email of "all group pay on hold - no target this year")
2012-13 prof target 3.5bn dhs (achvd 3.1bn) 10/5/13 - Target not achieved - no profit share
13/14 target 4.22bn (1st half 2.2bn) 8/5/14 - 4.1bn achieved - Target not achieved- 3 weeks profit share
2014/15 target 3.7bn (rwy closure) 1st half achieved 2.2bn - 2nd 3.2b for a total of 5.5bn - 9 weeks profit share
2015/16 target 7.7bn (1st half 3.7 achieved - total 8bn) 5 wks profit share
2016/17 target 7.2bn - Trump factor - Muslims/laptops banned.
(1st half 1.3 achieved-total 2.5). Pay on hold.
2017/18
(1st half 2.3bn). No target.
If you work the numbers, we are down significantly - in the double digits.
Further - JESS, one of the ESA benchmark schools have just announced fee increases for next year. DESC & DC to follow.
I won’t even get into VAT
What happens in the next few weeks will define the new leadership of BBJ & H’s legitimacy with the troops. Good men both, of that no doubt.
But If they don’t convince ATC & STC, the real powers that be - to focus on retention over recruitment - the exodus will continue as the aircraft keep coming.
At some point it will become very messy. The fact that STC has admitted to being short pilots tells you that we are short the absolute minimum to run the roster by 150. Plenty of guys resigning end of May for 3 month notice to coincide with new school year elsewhere.
On profit share because there was no target - anything above a $1 profit must be fed into the ‘ABOVE TARGET’ profit share matrix and thus should result in a generous profit share. I say SHOULD. I’m guessing group annual profit of Dhs 5bn + based on first half & leadership comments.
Open to correction on my numbers.
But that's the problem. You are being logical!
