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Old 11th Apr 2018, 17:34
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EK pilot shortage admitted by TC

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN1HI272

The airline is short about 100 to 150 pilots, forcing it to reduce the frequency of some routes to Florida in the United States this summer, Clark said. Chinese carriers in particular were offering extremly competitive packages for pilots, he said.

He said the shortage was a short-term situation, adding that Emirates has 170 pilots going through its cadetship programme.
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Slight underestimate methinks
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Originally Posted by in freedom View Post
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN1HI272

The airline is short about 100 to 150 pilots, forcing it to reduce the frequency of some routes to Florida in the United States this summer, Clark said. Chinese carriers in particular were offering extremly competitive packages for pilots, he said.
Maybe he should try competing.

Hey Tim, I would like to fly the A380, month on month off. Tickets home in business class like I get now. Reasonable schedule while during my time at work with decent layovers that allow me to actually enjoy them. Pay can be negotiated.

Its a pilots market, if you don't like it, keep cancelling flights.
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The airline is short about 100 to 150 pilots -TCminusAS

Hahahahaahahahahaha.


Thanks for the good laugh!
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What about all these new flights come June, Tim?
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I see CPT has been reduced to two dailys. Wonder of that has to do with it...
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It's the last, best hope

1. Tim admits to pilot shortage, even if he downplayed the numbers
2. Tim admits that the problem is the competitive package from abroad
3. Does he really believe the cadets are the salvation?

Let's see if the facts add up at the pay review.
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Flights being cut to USA, UK, Europe and Asia due lack of customer interest. There is no pilot shortage, who came up with that rumor?
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Over 4 decades ago when I first got into this industry there were people (pilots mostly) warning about an impending shortage - I'm retired now but cheered to see that that the same warnings are still going around..
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Over 4 decades ago when I first got into this industry there were people (pilots mostly) warning about an impending shortage - I'm retired now but cheered to see that that the same warnings are still going around..
48 years ago for me, and every time we were on the cusp of a real shortage a watershed event occurred: recessions, wars, 9/11, GFC. This time is different* even legacy carriers have about a third of the applicants they had as recently as ten years ago.

* ignoring headlines from the USA
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A pilot shortage only exists for those airlines that are low cost, don't look after their pilots, pay bellow market value and are experiencing loss of sight and direction from their management.

I don't think legacy carriers i.e. Qantas, British Airways, Lufthansa, KLM just to name a few are really screaming for pilots. Easy Jet, Ryanair, Wiz and Emirates just to name a few is a different story.
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Abu Dhabi and Dubai companies have recently started to collaborate after traditionally operating independently and sometimes in competition.

I think that means the big boss down the road is calling the shots in the next emirate over.
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I guess Sir Tim will retire soon and I can only assume that he also will be replaced by a fresh university graduate.
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I don't think legacy carriers i.e. Qantas, British Airways, Lufthansa, KLM just to name a few are really screaming for pilots
Lufthansa stated in their annual report that they are having to trim back expansion plans as they can't recruit enough pilots...
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Lufthansa stated in their annual report that they are having to trim back expansion plans as they can't recruit enough pilots...
Qantas says it has issues crewing the B737, but if you apply to Qantas and pass the interview process you become a SO. If they needed pilots they would at least offer direct entry FO as a minimum?

If applying to Lufthansa, I bet you if eligible, a position as FO with German Wings or other Lufthansa LCC offshoot would be offered. I don't think you will be flying for the legacy carrier?
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170 ( more like 800) pilots short, rumours of 6000 Cabin crew short, What does AAR have to do to get fired?, drop trousers on TCís desk and leave a steaming pile?
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Talk about underestimating the problem!

NB a bit if an aside but underestimating the problem got me thinking about the management mindset, so found this article about narcissism which rang some bells!

8 Things A Narcissist Cannot Do For You (Or Anyone Else)

1. Give A Sh*t About How You Feel
2. Be Interested In Your Problems
3. Apologize
4. Make You Feel Good About Yourself
5. Be Accountable For Their Own Actions
6. Support You Emotionally
7. Appreciate What You Do For Them
8. Love You - yeah a bit far literally but you know what they're getting at!!

Is this the checklist to get into management?? haha
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What does AAR have to do to get fired?, drop trousers on TCís desk and leave a steaming pile?
That would probably get him promoted

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Qantas says it has issues crewing the B737, but if you apply to Qantas and pass the interview process you become a SO. If they needed pilots they would at least offer direct entry FO as a minimum?

If applying to Lufthansa, I bet you if eligible, a position as FO with German Wings or other Lufthansa LCC offshoot would be offered. I don't think you will be flying for the legacy carrier?
Mango QF canít hire 737 direct F/O due to the pilots' contract. They can and do however offer F/O before S/O training starts. I think around 35 new hires chose that option.

Qantas has far fewer applicants than they did ten years ago. So much so that QF is planning to start an academy to train 500 pilots/yr...200+ of whom will be for the QF group.
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Originally Posted by Mango View Post
Qantas says it has issues crewing the B737, but if you apply to Qantas and pass the interview process you become a SO. If they needed pilots they would at least offer direct entry FO as a minimum?

If applying to Lufthansa, I bet you if eligible, a position as FO with German Wings or other Lufthansa LCC offshoot would be offered. I don't think you will be flying for the legacy carrier?
Yes. You go direct to Eurowings. Austria was hiring for their fleet and Swiss just got new labour contracts.
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