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Dubai, a sad story!!!

Old 5th Apr 2018, 17:39
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Angry Dubai, a sad story!!!

Just found this elsewhere on the Net, story may well be familiar to some on here

I lived and worked in Dubai in the early '70's,so this sad story doesn't surprise me

https://www.abelgiangirlabroad.com/h...y-i-left-dubai

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Old 5th Apr 2018, 18:46
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but we didn't even get a compensation for the mental damages.

an odd thing to write
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Old 5th Apr 2018, 18:50
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Originally Posted by pzu View Post
Just found this elsewhere on the Net, story may well be familiar to some on here

I lived and worked in Dubai in the early '70's,so this sad story doesn't surprise me

https://www.abelgiangirlabroad.com/h...y-i-left-dubai

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Beggars belief really. Sincere condolences to the bereaved parents.
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Old 5th Apr 2018, 20:43
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Itís a sad story but one that highlights something important that we all seemed to brush aside when signing up. It Is NOT like your home country - in the least offensive way possible, we canít expect a fifty year-old civilisation to act like an old established European one. Health and safety, culture, treatment of expats, the legal system - itís all different and as much as we would want it to be the same as our home country it isnít.

It really does need to be understood and accepted before heading to live in the Middle East. Itís wrong that things should be that way, and itís a heart-breaking story but one that I hope all potential joiners can learn from - understand the differences and weigh up the positives versus the negatives before making such an important decision to uproot the family for a few dollars more or the shiny big jet.
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Old 6th Apr 2018, 16:49
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Very sad story indeed, the laws and processes within dubai can be extremely challenging, that’s for sure.. but looking at other 1st world countries around the world these things still happen there as well, although getting some form of justice would probably happen at some stage, unlike in this story.

My condolences to the poor family.
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Old 7th Apr 2018, 06:22
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I flew with the Husband last year, he was an FO on the 380. I knew for the first time that he had some problems or troubles inside. He was quiet, somehow intimidating and a bit aggressive... but those were because of despair and disappointment. Not to the colleagues he flies with, but to the system that surrounds him. Justice for his son that he seek was too elusive, he tried his best, even to the point of attending a day to meet the Ruler of DXB. Only to be shove away in tears.
I felt his love for his son, for he still counts his age as if the kid is among the living. It was really heart breaking, and i wish none of us go through the same pain.
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Old 7th Apr 2018, 06:44
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having been in the UAE since 9 years I can confirm the poor justice situation here. I am always scared when I fly in to be taken aside without warning.

As for Benjji my deepest condolences to the family

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Old 7th Apr 2018, 12:37
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Why do people get done in by the fancy buildings, flashy cars etc. Its a third world country, once you peel back the vaneer it becomes quite obvious. Sadly it takes a few years to realize that.
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Old 7th Apr 2018, 17:13
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Not trying to defend Dubai but this case was settled several years ago and the 5 defendants were found guilty, fined and ordered to pay blood money (as is normal in that part of the world).

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/dubai...death-1.189574
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Old 7th Apr 2018, 18:23
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Originally Posted by Highway1 View Post
Not trying to defend Dubai but this case was settled several years ago and the 5 defendants were found guilty, fined and ordered to pay blood money (as is normal in that part of the world).

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/dubai...death-1.189574
And how ‘Dubai.’ The National gives the nationality of each person involved in order to deflect the blame from the messed up city/emirate/country itself.
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Old 7th Apr 2018, 22:04
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Airmann - I think it's well established here that the UAE is not a First World country. But a Third World country it is not. Veneer notwithstanding.
Sorry for you that it took a few years to realize this. It is well documented on this forum since the late 90's

Originally Posted by Airmann View Post
Why do people get done in by the fancy buildings, flashy cars etc. Its a third world country, once you peel back the vaneer it becomes quite obvious. Sadly it takes a few years to realize that.
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Old 7th Apr 2018, 22:06
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Well written, Odin's corax
It was true way back then, it's true today.

Originally Posted by Odins Raven View Post
Itís a sad story but one that highlights something important that we all seemed to brush aside when signing up. It Is NOT like your home country - in the least offensive way possible, we canít expect a fifty year-old civilisation to act like an old established European one. Health and safety, culture, treatment of expats, the legal system - itís all different and as much as we would want it to be the same as our home country it isnít.

It really does need to be understood and accepted before heading to live in the Middle East. Itís wrong that things should be that way, and itís a heart-breaking story but one that I hope all potential joiners can learn from - understand the differences and weigh up the positives versus the negatives before making such an important decision to uproot the family for a few dollars more or the shiny big jet.
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Old 7th Apr 2018, 22:44
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Airmann - I think it's well established here that the UAE is not a First World country. But a Third World country it is not. Veneer notwithstanding.
Sorry for you that it took a few years to realize this. It is well documented on this forum since the late 90's
Dubai is a mix of third world and first world. The overall safety, recreational opportunities and use of technology and especially with government services, leaves many first world countries standing. On the other hand the standard of driving, poor building maintenance and the clandestine banking system (to name a few), are no different and in some cases worse than the under developed Arab countries that I have had the 'pleasure' of living and working in prior to moving to the UAE.

For every story of this nature that makes it to the press, there are others that remain untold. RIP
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Old 8th Apr 2018, 00:32
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Originally Posted by Highway1 View Post
Not trying to defend Dubai but this case was settled several years ago and the 5 defendants were found guilty, fined and ordered to pay blood money (as is normal in that part of the world).

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/dubai...death-1.189574

Probably convicted but settlement was not given as the defendants runaway.
From the articles timeline, i flew with the FO nearly a year after that date, and they were still waiting for justice to be served.

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Old 8th Apr 2018, 10:39
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A boy drowns in a pool. Send him away alone in an ambulance and get on with your lives.
A crew member falls to her death from an Emirates aircraft. Send her away alone in an ambulance and get on with your lives.

Sad stories, indeed.
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Old 11th Apr 2018, 12:55
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Negligence!

Terrible news, TRAGIC no words.....what is the name of school hosting the sport camp and the Sports company involved here?
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Old 11th Apr 2018, 13:34
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This company was Active Sports. They gave holiday camps and swim lessons at various schools in Dubai. When this incidence happened the Aussie owner took the first flight out of the country. The two swim coaches were temporary coaches and they were busy chatting whilst the poor 5 year old Belgian boy fell into the pool and drowned. I dont know why the other students didn't notice either... I cant imagine the pain these people must feel to this day.
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Old 11th Apr 2018, 14:08
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Originally Posted by Cantbebothered View Post
This company was Active Sports. They gave holiday camps and swim lessons at various schools in Dubai. When this incidence happened the Aussie owner took the first flight out of the country. The two swim coaches were temporary coaches and they were busy chatting whilst the poor 5 year old Belgian boy fell into the pool and drowned. I dont know why the other students didn't notice either... I cant imagine the pain these people must feel to this day.
The owners were British and on leave at the time. The Ops manager was Australian and left to dry by the owners with no support. They didn't even bother to get back from leave.
Until recently one of the coaches couldn't leave the country as his passport was held back by the authorities.
What really happened at the pool... who knows.
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Old 11th Apr 2018, 20:50
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Slight correction: the owners are Dutch...
And, typical Dubai style, they are already running another sports club here in Dubai.... go figure...
At the time of the tragic events, apparently their maid was in charge of pool supervision....The lady could not even swim...
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Old 12th Apr 2018, 07:16
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So, the owners are definitely a combination of British, Australian & Dutch who left Dubai, never returned to Dubai or have set up a second Company in Dubai? The supervisory role was undertaken by anything ranging from two qualified full time/part time coaches to a maid who couldn't swim!

Please, ladies and gents, out of basic respect to the parents and to the boy himself, can we avoid turning this thread into a circus! The mother has posted her story. If you feel the facts are different, may I suggest you keep that to yourself.

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