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3rd World Maintenance
Just out of curiosity, is the reason so many US carriers do so much heavy maintenance in developing countries because they are trying to protect US jobs?
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My AA flight from New York to Las Vegas
"There is no USB power in these seats, sir"
"Sorry, we have no linens today, sir." (Places square of paper towel on tray.)
"The food for this flight is the same as Economy, sir."
"This flight has no amenity kit, sir."
"Tut!" (When asked for a bottle of water.)
The driver seat in my Range Rover is more comfortable!
and the Middle East 6 hour flight "equivalent":
And the non-government subsidised Asian "equivalent" To blow up that argument:
I'll give my support to US carriers when they can provide a competitive product and service, but they won't get another dollar of mine unless I have exhausted all other options.
"There is no USB power in these seats, sir"
"Sorry, we have no linens today, sir." (Places square of paper towel on tray.)
"The food for this flight is the same as Economy, sir."
"This flight has no amenity kit, sir."
"Tut!" (When asked for a bottle of water.)
The driver seat in my Range Rover is more comfortable!
and the Middle East 6 hour flight "equivalent":
And the non-government subsidised Asian "equivalent" To blow up that argument:
I'll give my support to US carriers when they can provide a competitive product and service, but they won't get another dollar of mine unless I have exhausted all other options.
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Sensible...
"Most" of those 22-year olds are multi-lingual and educated...right. Oh brother. Yes, they're all mensa members and Phd's. Hence, they chose "flight attendant" as their profession. 
Sure, there are some very accomplished cabin crew amongst the 20,000+...I should know, I married one with a degree...in medicine. But get real. It's bs to claim that they're not outliers. Most are far better at interacting with a smartphone than a person. 32 is the new 22, and 22 is more like about 12.
Not picking on the females, btw, the males of the species are probably worse.
Sure, there are some very accomplished cabin crew amongst the 20,000+...I should know, I married one with a degree...in medicine. But get real. It's bs to claim that they're not outliers. Most are far better at interacting with a smartphone than a person. 32 is the new 22, and 22 is more like about 12.
Not picking on the females, btw, the males of the species are probably worse.
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The fact will remain the same. These airlines will continue to grow coz of the low cost fuel, labour(including pilots) and the so called illegal subsidies. But they are efficient, making good bucks and not just flying to establish their position in the market. Like someone aptly said, this is not a pilots cup of coffee.
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The fact will remain the same. These airlines will continue to grow coz of the low cost fuel, labour(including pilots) and the so called illegal subsidies. But they are efficient, making good bucks and not just flying to establish their position in the market. Like someone aptly said, this is not a pilots cup of coffee.
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I just check 4 different travel sites. Cheapest EK flight as you mentioned was over $1300. DL was the cheapest at $1022.
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Exactly, flights from Asia to US, probably BA or TK used to be the cheapest. Not the ME3. Their product comes at a cost. IMHO EK is paying off Dubais debts.
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Don,
"how can you produce profit?"
Its called Marginal Cost Pricing, which in simple terms means that as long as the ticket price covers the incremental cost of carrying the extra passenger and his bags,(some additional fuel, catering, admin cost of ticketing/reservation etc), then its worth taking the extra pax at that apparently very low fare because any revenue above these incremental costs is a contribution to overall revenue (not technically profit, because that comes after a further contribution is made to overheads or fixed costs).
The danger comes when the airline is selling too many tickets based on this principle. While its possible, its highly unlikely there would be many seats available at these very low fares, and its all based on the principle that once the aircraft door is closed for departure, any empty seat is a wasted revenue earning opportunity - as I'm sure you know. Last minute sale of upgrades at check in at knock down rates is based on the same idea. Airline Revenue Optimization/Capacity control departments assess how many seats they can release at these low fares without diluting overall revenue and its become a hugely complex function.
Apologies if I'm stating the obvious or teaching granny to suck eggs......
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"how can you produce profit?"
Its called Marginal Cost Pricing, which in simple terms means that as long as the ticket price covers the incremental cost of carrying the extra passenger and his bags,(some additional fuel, catering, admin cost of ticketing/reservation etc), then its worth taking the extra pax at that apparently very low fare because any revenue above these incremental costs is a contribution to overall revenue (not technically profit, because that comes after a further contribution is made to overheads or fixed costs).
The danger comes when the airline is selling too many tickets based on this principle. While its possible, its highly unlikely there would be many seats available at these very low fares, and its all based on the principle that once the aircraft door is closed for departure, any empty seat is a wasted revenue earning opportunity - as I'm sure you know. Last minute sale of upgrades at check in at knock down rates is based on the same idea. Airline Revenue Optimization/Capacity control departments assess how many seats they can release at these low fares without diluting overall revenue and its become a hugely complex function.
Apologies if I'm stating the obvious or teaching granny to suck eggs......
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Its called Marginal Cost Pricing
Almost all airlines are in that mode today, with different weapons. Delta goes down the donaldesque video path, EK tries to contain the shamelessly aping neighbour by dangerous political means and AAB picks a fight with grannies.
It's a dirty war and not one of the protagonists stands on morally higher grounds.
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ME3 govt-subsidized? It's a private government, not subsidized by the citizen taxpayers, and it's a private-government owned airline so it's a private airline.
In the US where the citizens subsidize the government, private companies receive no government subsidies, unions are strong, the product is poor, the prices high and the profits are weak.
In the ME, where the citizens pay no tax, the airlines are run by the government and unions are non existent, the product is excellent, the prices good and the profits high.
In the US where the citizens subsidize the government, private companies receive no government subsidies, unions are strong, the product is poor, the prices high and the profits are weak.
In the ME, where the citizens pay no tax, the airlines are run by the government and unions are non existent, the product is excellent, the prices good and the profits high.
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ME3 govt-subsidized? It's a private government, not subsidized by the citizen taxpayers, and it's a private-government owned airline so it's a private airline.
In the US where the citizens subsidize the government, private companies receive no government subsidies, unions are strong, the product is poor, the prices high and the profits are weak.
In the ME, where the citizens pay no tax, the airlines are run by the government and unions are non existent, the product is excellent, the prices good and the profits high.
In the US where the citizens subsidize the government, private companies receive no government subsidies, unions are strong, the product is poor, the prices high and the profits are weak.
In the ME, where the citizens pay no tax, the airlines are run by the government and unions are non existent, the product is excellent, the prices good and the profits high.
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Are you trying to say "absolute monarchy" is more effective than democracies?
Is it better? Depends on who the Absolute Monarch is
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Is it better to eat a chicken today or an egg tomorrow?
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It's absolutely more effective. Look at the results. As for workers paying the price, we get paid more here than we do at home. And we don't pay tax to a non performing government.
Way to go.
Way to go.
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AfricanSkies. Exactly. It is a private company/government. They can do what they want. In which case I see no issues with the Americans (or anyone else) doing what THEY want! If that means keeping the ME3 out then so be it. Or does your analogy only work in one direction??