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Its sort of like finding a good woman, you can put in the time and search out one that will go the distance or you can buy one for $ 100 bucks on a street corner. It's all about waking up with a self respect.
If you want to make money in aviation, why don't you open a company like Eagle? There are plenty like you out there.
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You should definitely go this route. This is the best way to rid yourself of any money you don't deserve or know how to use. You will also get a lot of respect from your future employers and colleagues by showing your contribution to lowering the bar in aviation.
Its sort of like finding a good woman, you can put in the time and search out one that will go the distance or you can buy one for $ 100 buck on a street corner. It's all about waking up with a self respect.
If you want to make money in aviation, why don't you open a company like Eagle? There are plenty like you out there.
Its sort of like finding a good woman, you can put in the time and search out one that will go the distance or you can buy one for $ 100 buck on a street corner. It's all about waking up with a self respect.
If you want to make money in aviation, why don't you open a company like Eagle? There are plenty like you out there.
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Before you throw away your money on the p2f take a moment and think if that is route you want to go with.
You will be destroying the job market for yourself and every other pilot.
You will never be treated with respect by your colleagues.
More over your will be whoring yourself out.
Take your time, build your time on the small aircraft,there are jobs out there, the industry is opening up, you will get a job. you will be greatfull you did the hard slog in the long run.
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Mena,
Do you now appreciate what short sighted actions like this do for the industry?
Again, if you want to be treated like a whore and sell out the industry for your own gain then go ahead..go this route.
This is not a question of opinion, its a question of ethics and morals...now you just have to ask yourself if you have any or not.
Do you now appreciate what short sighted actions like this do for the industry?
Again, if you want to be treated like a whore and sell out the industry for your own gain then go ahead..go this route.
This is not a question of opinion, its a question of ethics and morals...now you just have to ask yourself if you have any or not.
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be careful, or it will be 5 years, and add to that no money AND no course if you pay it all up in advance, many crooks in this business...and with higher scrutiny of visas, you may well finish the course, just to find your permit to work is denied...do you meet the qualifications? then if so, you have other options...
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Very poor illiterate pilots will go this way (1000 hrs)
Poor illiterate ones will go for 500 hrs only
Average illiterate ones will go to flying schools where you have to pay for the training...
Poor illiterate ones will go for 500 hrs only
Average illiterate ones will go to flying schools where you have to pay for the training...
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Usually with these schemes the "cost" includes the commission to the broker, in the case EJ. You will find your "contract" means they get to keep their fee £££ even if you pull out. The time frames are always ambiguous and they "reserve the right" to put you anywhere, so basically its a get out of jail free card for them. The other issue is that many of the money grabbing "partner airlines" may not even be around in a year or so when you actually get a chance to start. They normally sell you the type rating first then you join the queue to find a slot to pay to sit in the same seat some other guy is getting paid to sit in. If you go down route probably you will be a refugee paying your own hotac and transport etc etc. Many years ago these schemes were a kick start to those hitting a brick wall because of age, experience or ability, these days they are a jurassic way of extracting money and giving false hope to guys/gals. There are a multitude of airlines that will deal with you directly and sell you a the rating and hours on type, and just maybe keep you on, but its a slim maybe. Are EJ scammers? probably not and could be considered market leaders as the blood suckers, probably quite professional but unless you have 3 years to spare plus a lot of cash ,,, there are alternatives .
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Hi Mena. Two ways to look at it. Continue with the status quo or pay and improve your chances. The latter can be risky if you go with a bad company but eagle jet have been around a good few years I believe. I did one of these schemes a while back (15 years ago almost) and they're bust now but it landed me a jet job straight away. Spaces on cadet schemes are few and far between and who knows how many more years will pass before you get your break. I'd far rather have not paid a dime but it's the nature of the beast. Don't listen to people regurgitating crap like you're screwing yourself and others. It's not fair to blame pay 2 fly folks for the industry's own short comings. I know plenty of guys who've gone down this route and all of them got jet jobs. It is risky and as Avenger eluded to, a lot of shady operators so good luck.
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Doesn't make you sound like an ar$e at all! I know guys who've waited years. One waited 7 and landed a job at a UK major. He's left seat 747 and a good operator. Sometimes ability and experience has nothing to do with.
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Hi Mena. Two ways to look at it. Continue with the status quo or pay and improve your chances. The latter can be risky if you go with a bad company but eagle jet have been around a good few years I believe. I did one of these schemes a while back (15 years ago almost) and they're bust now but it landed me a jet job straight away. Spaces on cadet schemes are few and far between and who knows how many more years will pass before you get your break. I'd far rather have not paid a dime but it's the nature of the beast. Don't listen to people regurgitating crap like you're screwing yourself and others. It's not fair to blame pay 2 fly folks for the industry's own short comings. I know plenty of guys who've gone down this route and all of them got jet jobs. It is risky and as Avenger eluded to, a lot of shady operators so good luck.
Its exactly people like this and you who lower the bar and make it more difficult for the ones coming up in the industry. Respectable pilots will bust their asses in a C402, or same aged piston plane to build the time to become marketable at higher levels. Today the market is flooded with wankers who feel they are above all that and will sell out their own for a RHS seat in a 320.
Do yourself a favor and go out and learn how to fly instead of regurgitating a book, engaging AP1 at 100 feet and following a green line, one day your life and those behind you may count on it.
It not a respectable path to follow.
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Let me be the first to call BULL ****E.
Its exactly people like this and you who lower the bar and make it more difficult for the ones coming up in the industry. Respectable pilots will bust their asses in a C402, or same aged piston plane to build the time to become marketable at higher levels. Today the market id flooded with wankers who feel they are above that and will sell out their own for a RHS seat in a 320.
Do yourself a favor and go out and learn how to fly instead of regurgitating a book, engaging AP1 at 100 feet and following a green line.
It not a respectable path to follow.
Its exactly people like this and you who lower the bar and make it more difficult for the ones coming up in the industry. Respectable pilots will bust their asses in a C402, or same aged piston plane to build the time to become marketable at higher levels. Today the market id flooded with wankers who feel they are above that and will sell out their own for a RHS seat in a 320.
Do yourself a favor and go out and learn how to fly instead of regurgitating a book, engaging AP1 at 100 feet and following a green line.
It not a respectable path to follow.
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So I lowered the bar? I think you're totally out of touch with where the industry is outside of North America! Is it a jealousy thing that I didn't have to wait tables whilst flying some twin around at night and you did? I really don't get where the whole magenta line, flying crop dusters chip on your shoulder comes from.
PS...If working 30 years OUTSIDE of the USA in the ME and Europe isn't enough to comment then god help the industry because you certainly didn't.
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Plenty of US airlines had applicants pay for their type rating. Hell, up until just a few years ago, South West would not accept your application without already having had, or paying for a 737 type.
I understand both sides, but I would not pay. I don't care what aircraft you fly. You WILL miss the days of scud running and such in a piston twin.
I understand both sides, but I would not pay. I don't care what aircraft you fly. You WILL miss the days of scud running and such in a piston twin.