Parc to provide temp EK pilots?
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Parc to provide temp EK pilots?
Apparently high- grade rumor doing the rounds, that Parc have been asked by EK to provide pilots for EK line ops...20 on/10 off. One would also have to assume that, if it's true, the money would be OK too..
Sowing the wind..
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Sowing the wind..
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...of course they will be paid twice as much as us and this will cause further attrition.. Glad to have the extra bodies to share the load, but need to start rewarding your hard driven slaves that have stuck it out.
Very easy to find out, sign up for their job alert email, or better yet 777 guys on your next DUB trip..pop in and say hello and have a cuppa, they are easy enough to find just off Swords Rd.
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I would welcome it with all arms and pay them twice as much for all I care. They are temporary and we're not, the load badly needs to be spread. Sadly, there aren't that many 777 guys laying around.....
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With four senior TREs having resigned in the past couple of weeks, (and that's just the ones I personally know of), I'm guessing EK is in desperate need of something innovative. But it would appear they simply don't care.
Reduced experience in every seat in the aircraft and in the sim. Big worry. Tremendous worry. As Trump would say.
Reduced experience in every seat in the aircraft and in the sim. Big worry. Tremendous worry. As Trump would say.
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If they dropped this thousand hour widebody requirements on 737 guys there would be a lot more DEC applicants to chose from. But if benefits and healthcare is so expensive it may be even easier to outsource a cash force with lower overhead and no liability
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They are a JOKE with no pride whatsoever...
I wouldnt recommend this to my worst ENEMY in all honesty.. Ive had many good experience guys approach me from Europe about applying here and I directed them up the road to QR as its easier to get home every month and get adequate leave every other month there, they are very happy there and they even joke there among them about how dire EK has become and how they made the right choice to go there..
When will realise that the 4500 pilots they have are their best recruiters to bring in pilots????? Time is nearly up and Cant wait :-)))))))
I wouldnt recommend this to my worst ENEMY in all honesty.. Ive had many good experience guys approach me from Europe about applying here and I directed them up the road to QR as its easier to get home every month and get adequate leave every other month there, they are very happy there and they even joke there among them about how dire EK has become and how they made the right choice to go there..
When will realise that the 4500 pilots they have are their best recruiters to bring in pilots????? Time is nearly up and Cant wait :-)))))))
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Pilothead,
EK don't need DECs they have plenty of suitably qualified FOs waiting for promotion, what they need is to attract guys to replace these FOs that are moving to the left seat...
EK don't need DECs they have plenty of suitably qualified FOs waiting for promotion, what they need is to attract guys to replace these FOs that are moving to the left seat...
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If they do not need DEC, why then are they almost harassing me since several weeksto join their recruitment days??
By the way, transition from B737 to widebody Boeing is no problem at all. The Airline I fly for does it all the time. In fact, Widebody ops are easier.
By the way, transition from B737 to widebody Boeing is no problem at all. The Airline I fly for does it all the time. In fact, Widebody ops are easier.
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"Wake up EK - why don't you try to keep the experience guys here! Keep the senior guys happy, as a start getting seniority reinstated in the bid system, that might stop them leaving then you can start trying to increase numbers! Simple!"
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!- Increase the salaries dramatically of guys that are here, give them a few perks, follow through on empty promises, stop purposely trying to fail them in the sim or refuse swaps that are perfectly legal , give them their bid choices, give them their LEAVE- even if it means cancelling a few flights - THEN - word gets out on the street that EK is paying well, looking after their guys, and people start coming here. Then no pilot shortage. Seriously not rocket science. The amount spent (actually a lot is cost neutral anyway) is a pittance compared to the turnover they are dealing with, not to mention the cost of the next accident resulting from ridiculous fatigue. Sheik M needs to remove the clearly pilot hating poison from management, or this airline is doomed.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!- Increase the salaries dramatically of guys that are here, give them a few perks, follow through on empty promises, stop purposely trying to fail them in the sim or refuse swaps that are perfectly legal , give them their bid choices, give them their LEAVE- even if it means cancelling a few flights - THEN - word gets out on the street that EK is paying well, looking after their guys, and people start coming here. Then no pilot shortage. Seriously not rocket science. The amount spent (actually a lot is cost neutral anyway) is a pittance compared to the turnover they are dealing with, not to mention the cost of the next accident resulting from ridiculous fatigue. Sheik M needs to remove the clearly pilot hating poison from management, or this airline is doomed.
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Suitably qualified FOs?..plenty. FO's to replace them? Almost none. A few nights ago a PPC sim was cancelled because the FO bailed and there was no-one to replace him. There were also six flights without FOs that night. Absolute and utter chaos.
A tiny number of applicants have passed the recruitment process in the past two months.
A tiny number of applicants have passed the recruitment process in the past two months.
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[QUOTE=Seaman Staynes;9693261]I see from latest email they want us to all start recommending any pilots we know - our friends...
Have I missed something? Not seen any email.
Not that I'd recommend anyone to this joke of a sh*t show
Have I missed something? Not seen any email.
Not that I'd recommend anyone to this joke of a sh*t show
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By the way, transition from B737 to widebody Boeing is no problem at all
In fact, Widebody ops are easier.
Asked a mate yesterday (who should know) who said the rumour is bovine waste product. On a separate point, Icelanta..widebody ops are generally a bit easier, but here at EK they are made rather more difficult simply by our route and roster structure, unless it's on the 380 were the most difficult part is ignoring all the "spurious" electronic don't crash aids.
Would have been good if the 777 had some of those Moanarch.
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Increase the salaries of the present workforce-I agree! And ontop of that compensate for the 5% tax coming Jan1st on a lotta products in the UAE. Otherwise on top of the non existing inflation correction, there will be another 'salarydecrease' coming rapidly yr way...
Oh wait, forgot one thing... they dont care... We will see.
Oh wait, forgot one thing... they dont care... We will see.
Settle down ladies, Don is merely being Don..I happen to enjoy his reposts which for the most part are based on fact.
That being said, I can't stand most things French, apart from Le Man and perhaps the Rhone Valley mid summer.
That being said, I can't stand most things French, apart from Le Man and perhaps the Rhone Valley mid summer.