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Thrust Reversers are evil

Old 22nd Feb 2017, 13:19
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Thrust Reversers are evil

So.....

They add weight, increase fuel consumption are noisy & uncomfortable and their use is minimal plus in one place we get fined for inappropriate use.

I think slides are the next to go.
They are heavy and cumbersome, add weight and get in the way of door usage.
Actually, just get rid of the doors. They add weight and increase fuel consumption, noisy and uncomfortable and for most, are seldom used.

Fire extinguishers. Ppphhh! Whens the last time you used one of those?

Add your list of evil items to save spending money.....

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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 13:29
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Remove 10% of the seats, they are heavy and cumbersome, that will reduce weight in the cabin and allow more space to move around. It will also reduce the APS weight of the aircraft, it will also reduce the amount of food and drink that needs to be carried as there are fewer people on board to consume it, which will reduce the weight, further meaning less fuel required, and less trip fuel requires less tanking of fuel to carry that fuel, so further economies will be made. The cabin crew will have an easier time so will be happier in their work, seems like a good idea to me?
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 13:30
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Fantastic post , so much background information! Keep them coming
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 13:40
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I always thought carrying extra oxygen a waste, there is all that free oxygen in the cabin already.

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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 13:55
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Get rid of those heavy, bulky and expensive seats in the cockpit. Damned drivers shouldn't sitting down on the job anyway - Captain Nemo never sat when on duty and nor did Nelson. It only encourages a slovenly attitude, and encourages the drivers to snooze at their posts.

While they're at it - let's get rid of those cockpit windows. They add weight and cost, constrain the aerodynamic design and expose the crew to hazards from kids playing with their [email protected] pointers. The drivers are all supposed to be qualified in IFR flying, so why do they even NEED windows?

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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 14:40
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Yes get rid of windows, especially as many think it is a better idea to navigate by camera
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 16:31
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You guys worry me a bit. Who cares? It's an email, it's not binding or any real change to what we've been doing for years. Personally I don't like to waken the dead in the middle of the night to a noise sensitive long runway on a light bird. I'll use them all the way to the same runway with a tailwind, contaminated etc. If you want to use them or need to use them, use them. No one will ever question it and you don't even need to write a reason any more.
I think we've got bigger issues..
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 16:39
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Sorry Birdseed, it's a mindset that permeates cubicle dwellers of all airlines. Written by those who are not at the pointy end of the spear day in and day out. They want us us not to "fly" the aircraft for increased safety. Maximum autopilot usage is an added safety measure. Wouldn't reversers be an addd safety measure? If there are NO variables, I am happy with idle reverse. I have seen a number of issues, like missed HS turnoffs, fast closure of the end of the runway, hot brakes and more by relying only on auto brakes where the numbers say no problem but in reality, conditions are way different than entered in the OPT. which then the whole issue of airmanship comes in. One cannot expect a 3000 hour, less than "heavy" driver to have the experience/airmanship do do other than the Master's calling.

But if you do remove seats, as has been said, less weight, less catering, less baggage handling, less complaints, less safety issues in aircraft evacuations, less fuel burn, more on time departures and arrivals....the advantages are enormous. With the yield management geniuses we have working here, losing 10% of the seats would actually help the bottom line. And this is not sarcasm.

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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 16:42
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@ Bird seed hopeful 1

Jolly good ol' boy. Stiff upper lip and all that, wot! There's a good chap!

It's a funny email with a funny side and here it is. Well done for picking that up!

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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 16:50
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Originally Posted by speedbirdhopeful1 View Post
You guys worry me a bit. Who cares? It's an email, it's not binding or any real change to what we've been doing for years. Personally I don't like to waken the dead in the middle of the night to a noise sensitive long runway on a light bird. I'll use them all the way to the same runway with a tailwind, contaminated etc. If you want to use them or need to use them, use them. No one will ever question it and you don't even need to write a reason any more.
I think we've got bigger issues..
I was my understanding that the OP may not have been 100% serious.



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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 17:09
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They are evil, they must be banished and removed.
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 21:02
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Get rid of cabin crew in Y class and put in vending machines instead . On there time off the pilots can restock them as well as getting a bonus if sales reach a certain level!
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 21:16
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Remove all the managers. Nothing will change, but it'll save a packet...
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Old 22nd Feb 2017, 23:28
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Remove HR while you're at it too ..... Please!!!!!
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 03:51
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HR Managers are evil

Originally Posted by twentyyearstoolate View Post
Remove HR while you're at it too ..... Please!!!!!
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 15:47
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I have to be honest I did check the date!
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 04:11
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Remove all the managers. Nothing will change, but it'll save a packet...
Not entirely true. There would be more parking spaces and less lineups at the atrium Costa.

Otherwise, you are correct, there would be no foreseeable difference to the operation beyond enormous cost savings.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 18:28
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Get rid of all the seats in the A/C and just move freight. No cabin crew, no airport staff, no seat cover changes, no catering, no BS!
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Old 25th Feb 2017, 09:01
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I'll use full reverse as much as possible because I love the roar associated with its use, and to let the neighbors know who's in town. Just like the company decides to fly me at 95+ hours a month, I have no reason to be cautious about the costs associated with full reverse, not doing single engine taxiing, etc...
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Old 25th Feb 2017, 15:52
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Seems thrust reverses are almost as bad as denied boarding. Ask around for details. It's shocking!
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