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EK - how long for upgrade to command?

Old 29th Aug 2016, 12:08
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If you wanted a command in 5 years you should have joined 5 years ago. A glance at the number of aircraft on order (remember some are replacements) compared to the number of aircraft Emirates already has shows that the expansion will have stopped well before anybody joining now is in line for an upgrade. This means anybody joining now will have to rely on attrition and retirements to move up the seniority list before they get a command. There have been no significant aircraft orders for a while now.
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Old 29th Aug 2016, 13:54
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As more 380's come online they will be able to make the rosters more efficient. I have my friend who is middle bid 97 hours 8 days off 380 CA. I think this is a rarity, but it could become common. 8 days off on a 380 appears hard to schedule consistently. Do not join any airline based on todays rosters, upgrade times etc. Those are not constants. I would urge you to look for deeper qualities. IMHO
Is there anyone out there who doubts that this is the target? As someone else posted, as they get more 380's, it will be easier to achieve those "productivity targets" across the board.
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Old 30th Aug 2016, 12:48
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Yes Geordie, It is not going to be 5 years anymore.
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Old 1st Sep 2016, 04:14
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More than 5 years to upgrade, yes. Already the case.
Upgrades stopped till DEC2016, probably into early 2017. Big backlog of NAC candidates, excited to start but delayed for months.

I think the big Mueller will make a few changes, stepping away from the low yield 380 operation to a lot of destinations in the States. The IAH operation is making profit again, after flying the 777 in there e.g.
Canceling the delivery of 380's, and changing this to another aircraft like the 350 looks like an option. EK stepping away from the flagship 380 is not unlikely.

Also think that everybody will go to the max hours, just 'enough' pilots to make it all happen. Dumping all the 'old' aircraft, and advertising with the youngest fleet on the world?
Giving it a year orso to clean the mess we are in at the moment, then think about expansion again, slowly.
The office staff will be hit hard, and they have to get used to do one job for one person with the normal amount of one person, not 5.

Interesting times ahead.

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Old 1st Sep 2016, 05:26
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Hey guys ,


Isn't that the case all around the world ?

All the airlines around the world want pilots to fly max and give the company max productivity ..

And if 380 doesn't make sense then yeah they will change to some other fleet ... But that can happen to any airline rite ?

I can understand if you are from USA or Europe and you get a job back in your home country it makes sense to go back ...
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Old 1st Sep 2016, 06:11
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One job for one person sounds pretty good to me. I feel like I'm doing the work of 2 at the moment.
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Old 1st Sep 2016, 09:55
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Originally Posted by iamanaussiemavrick View Post
Hey guys ,


Isn't that the case all around the world ?

All the airlines around the world want pilots to fly max and give the company max productivity ..
Safety culture is what counts, never forget you have a couple of hundred slf in the back.....
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Old 14th Sep 2016, 03:18
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Are there any info about the future of getting a command in EK. heard a bit but like to filter out the rumours ans seaking some confirmation.
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Old 14th Sep 2016, 04:05
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I can confirm the numbers quoted here will change numerous times before you achieve a command at EK.
Friend of mine did his in 3 years, I did 4 years, buddy right now just over 5 years, my neighbor who joined at same time as me got his command well after 8 years.
Too many variables to quote a time frame.
There are no guarantees.
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Old 14th Sep 2016, 08:12
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I heard rumors of an age limit being added.
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Old 14th Sep 2016, 09:48
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There are rumours (and this is a rumour network) that a minimum age of 35 will be introduced for the upgrade. As Macrohard says, when it comes to upgrades there are no guarantees.
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Old 14th Sep 2016, 10:29
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DEC s 380 starting at pay level 20 because of age implementation. Also current Capt s 330 going downgraded RHS 380 with Capt pay.
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Old 14th Sep 2016, 10:52
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DEC 380?????
Sure about it???
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Old 14th Sep 2016, 14:45
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So if you're under 35 and have your command then they downgrade you? None of this makes sense fellas.
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Old 14th Sep 2016, 18:31
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Originally Posted by fatbus View Post
DEC s 380 starting at pay level 20 because of age implementation. Also current Capt s 330 going downgraded RHS 380 with Capt pay.
Fact or rumour Fatbus?
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 02:04
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So guys, what is the current situation for command upgrade in emirates? Especially for 777 fleet?
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 19:49
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Forget asking that question. What you should be saying is "I want to join Emirates because its the best airline in the world, I love living in Dubai, I love the multicultural crew concept, I love to be reported for no reason without knowing why, I love working 100 hours per month, I love sitting in an aircraft for 17 hours at a time, I love sleeping in a box under the cabin floor thats about the size of an average suitcase.

All the upgrade stuff is secondary and may (or may not) happen in 7 to ∞ years depending on who does your recurrent sim checks. Go to EK because you love the management, not the upgrade.

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