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Old 10th May 2016, 15:57
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@fatbus, I'm with you on your comment above. If it had been 10 weeks then there would have still been complaints. The immature nature or tone of some of these posts could have been written at a kindergarten.

It's not as good as it used to be, but it's the new norm. Put up, shut up or pack up.


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Old 10th May 2016, 16:01
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Is that comment to the pissed off vocal majority or to Fatbus?
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Old 10th May 2016, 17:48
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"Put up, shut up or pack up"

Battered woman syndrome Jack?
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Old 10th May 2016, 18:29
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"You've seen the end of the profit share" - Commonly held view by the frothing at the mouth types, after the year when it was zero weeks. Glad to see the sense of optimism continues...
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Old 10th May 2016, 21:10
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Neektu: I was fighting against the green bananas for years without success.
But on ULR the time should be long enough for them to get yellow.
So no change here as well to be expected.
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Old 10th May 2016, 23:35
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Just took a quick look at the annual report and the way I read it is, the group made 15.4 billion AED or about $4.1 billion USD, you just have to add the group profit and the "profit attributal to the owner" together.

$4.1bn USD makes sense based on the revenue when you look at what is going on in the rest of the airline world.

Another thing that caught my eye is the the profit attributable to the owner goes up by 50% ( +/- a percent or two) each year, bet you that it is around 10.5bn AED next year.

Warlock2000 almost has it right, they munipulate the numbers to come up with the number of weeks "bonus" that they think you need to feel like you are part of the "team" and keep you from going bat****, so I will take the money, but I won't say thank you.

We have all earned it the hard way.
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Old 11th May 2016, 02:40
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We won't get what we expect - despite what all you financial wizards say
We don't get what we want - to keep up with inflation and counter poor recruitment
We won't get what we deserve - for flying 100 hours in 28 days and reduced leave
We will be disappointed - guaranteed
SS, et all.
Why are you still there?
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Old 11th May 2016, 02:45
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SS leaves soon.

Good luck to ya mate.
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Old 11th May 2016, 02:49
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And you Don,

Why are you still there?
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Old 11th May 2016, 05:48
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Why are you here Fearless? Are you scared to leave or can you leave?
5 weeks was an insult I don't care what the company pilots said.
I am over 900 hrs and was expecting more especially with the profit "declared."
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Old 11th May 2016, 07:01
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Mutts

Do you think they went for the carrots over the celery as it might improve our night vision? Not that we do much flying at night.........

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Old 11th May 2016, 07:26
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I made the evidence-based cynical prophecy a while ago that on this occasion and for the first time in company history the payout will be in June instead of May just to give certain resignees the parting gift of no gift.

Has anyone seen a reference to what month the share will be distributed?
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Old 11th May 2016, 07:43
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Good observation Muttley. However each carrot stick is now 30% shorter resulting in a 8%
reduction in the amount of carrots. (I need something to do on long flights).
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Old 11th May 2016, 08:36
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hahahaha! 5 weeks! As much as I have to feel for the pilots still slaving away, there is something pretty hilarious about the company having the cheek to offer that after the declared profit. It's truly fascinating to see the extent of the contempt they have for the source of that profit.

All I can say is, I hope there weren't too many potential resignations hanging on for a few extra months for THAT! Hell, there are tons of other jobs out there that routinely pay a 13th month salary every year, without the false drama of some made-up profit announcement bs and the requisite clapping seals in the atrium. (Pssst...five weeks is only a hair more than a month...)

No doubt the same few will be back next year, stretching for "just ONE more" Prophet Cher "and then we'll leave", the big one that never...quite...comes...followed by the breathless wait for some sort of smoke-and-mirrors non-raise in the salary. How many years in a row will people choose to remain in a job that is killing them, so that they can go backwards financially after inflation? (How long is a piece of string?)

Thank you Emirates, for completely vindicating the decisions of so many to leave this past year.
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Old 11th May 2016, 09:02
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Pay rise is usually announced in about a week. Once the euphoria over the profit share has died down.
Since any form of "euphoria" amongst the pilot body completely disappeared circa 2009 (when TCAS announced the TEMPORARY increase in flying hours), I'd say it would have been safe for "them" to communicate the next creative tweak to our T&C's 24 hrs ago!


Lets hope the 'unshared' balance goes into a significant double digit pay rise - which is what really matters to us anyway!
That along with getting a LIFE back! Which is more important than $$'s
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Old 11th May 2016, 09:13
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Originally Posted by Dropp the Pilot
I made the evidence-based cynical prophecy a while ago that on this occasion and for the first time in company history the payout will be in June instead of May just to give certain resignees the parting gift of no gift.

Has anyone seen a reference to what month the share will be distributed?
It said May in the Powerpoint presentation...
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Old 12th May 2016, 08:13
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oh well there you have. Same time next year guys???
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Old 12th May 2016, 13:42
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Always been in May pay
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Old 12th May 2016, 15:01
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And the pay review is usually announced in June. Shall we now start speculating on that?
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Old 12th May 2016, 15:25
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The pilot pay review will show the lack of respect the company has towards its pilot staff.
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