EK Bonus

[The Outlaw]

Terms and Conditions enhancement announced by STC

"Work hard Harry and each day you'll get a shiny penny"!

[InnocentBystander]

Innocent take a deep breath - go to post 28 - read second line again slowly.

Still wrong. The step increase is NOT a pay raise, no matter how "simple" you'd like to "word" it. Same as the "profit share" is not a "bonus". You know, words have actual meanings, believe it or not.

[fliion]

Oh FFS- this is chat forum not a policy contract...subtract 3% then...just passing on info (with a caveat) that guys might be interested in

I mean if you are such a stickler for contractual details, presumably anything over step - you gave back ...after all it's not in your contact. Right?

Or better yet - copy and paste my post - and actually take the time to break down the numbers and repost with step or lack thereof.

I hold no IP liability against you 🤔👍

[Fellowship of the drink]

Agree with Fillion.

Thanks for taking your time to compile it. The last few years have sucked in terms of pay adjustments!

[fatbus]

Fillion, I thank you for the recap and agree with you .

[fliion]

Pleasure gents

[InnocentBystander]

I mean if you are such a stickler for contractual details

Shouldn't everyone be? After all it's the contract you've signed.

Again, words matter. Because they have meaning. And for some strange reason you take my criticism to incite infighting among the minions.

While management leans back and laughs at us. Because they sure know the difference between a step increase and a pay raise and a bonus and a profit share.

[Uplink]

Innocent,

You allude to the contract you signed and what was written on it.....

When has the company ever abided by your contract. I can't even count that on one hand!

An increment is a contractural rise and even you admit one year they didn't pay it. That means they went against the contract. A bit like 42 days of leave. We are lucky now to get 30 of which half is normally now allocated.

In the end the rise in money you get from year to year is the same whether you call it an contractural increment or a pay rise. Honestly who gives a *%#+!

[Dixi]

Gents

I can understand your frustration but trust me somewhere else down the road is much worse...same salary since 2008,no increase whatsoever,rumors regarding reduction of allowances started going on.....at least you got a big bonus last year and an increase on the allowances 2 years ago....shall I continue ?
Cheers
Dixi

[White Sausage]

Who cares about somewhere down the road? We are not comparing other (possibly ****tier outfits) to this outfit. Apples and oranges, anyone? We are talking about this one here, and it doesn't bode well...

[OzoneAddict]

I think this year there is more interest in what is really current, exit strategy. Resignation. Find another seat to fly from. Guys were really excited and focused last year and the STC bragging massive profits and record breaking stuff, however this fizzled out by the lack of credible bonus payout, this solely may perhaps go down in history as EKs last blunder to salvage the sinking ship, whereby it was known to be the lowest fuel price ever and high profits. This year people have been displaced, Fly dubai has and accident with loss of lives, so low fuel equations and huge profits are bitter sweet!!

[lospilotos]

Originally Posted by OzoneAddict

Guys were really excited and focused last year and the STC bragging massive profits and record breaking stuff, however this fizzled out by the lack of credible bonus payout, this solely may perhaps go down in history as EKs last blunder to salvage the sinking ship, whereby it was known to be the lowest fuel price ever and high profits.

For the financial year 2014-15 the jet fuel price was still at the highs for the first 6 months. It only for the latest year 2015-16 that we've been operating the the low regime for an entire year. That's why this will (should) be the year with record profits and record profit share...

[fatbus]

Wishful thinking .

[Divertnow]

Originally Posted by fatbus

Wishful thinking .

I did see an interview on the BBC with TC that said ek profits last year are up 40%! Not sure if they meant the last fiscal year just finished or the interview was old. Just caught the tail end. Can anyone shed any light?

[BigGeordie]

Record profits maybe. But the profit share target also went up significantly. If we don't make the target we get nothing. I'm not quite sure how this is supposed to motivate people- work yourself to death all year, miss the target by 100Dhs and get nothing.

[OzoneAddict]

Originally Posted by Just_landed

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[Divertnow]

2 weeks is my prediction.

[CamelRustler]

What EK needs to do is stop making a target and just give the employees a flat % of the profit. It would feel much more transparent, and I think motivate the employees a bit more if they knew they were going to get a check as to this guessing game.

[Phil A Buster]

As has been said before, always expect nothing and everything over that is a bonus

[LHR Rain]

What don't we expect what we deserve? 10-12 weeks!
Have we been beaten to such a point where we don't even expect what we deserve? We are truly a pathetic bunch.