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Old 7th Apr 2016, 18:32
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May be FRMS recommended "Make pilots sleep in construction zones" for better performance and also make them always repeat "Its not fatigue it is just tiredness".
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 04:39
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Company evictions

So here we go again. Sad once again to learn that my friend "Garden shed" as well as others at Silicon are to be uprooted at company behest. So sorry for you all as this happened to me last year so I understand how you feel right now. I moved to MH a year ago which despite the doom and gloom predictions from some has proved a good place to live with a great community spirit.
We lived in a great location for twelve years and at times I do miss that location but not the man yelling four times a day at full blast which meant that I was always sleep deprived. (Now EK just do that with the rosters!).
Without in any way defending the company I can see why they are moving us all out to MH and MS as it is a considerable saving for them. My bills in comparison with my previous location are down by nearly two thirds and I do not even get close to the DEWA limit wheras in the previous place I was always close.
We looked at Silicon and other places but always came back to the view that we would end up in Meydan anyway as twice in the notice letter it stated that the company would not guarantee remaining in any location other than MH or MS.
That was the reason why we opted for MH.
It is not perfect but has a good pool, gym and grounds but we like it for the fact that people are friendly . Some new some old and even some EK lower management from Dnata etc!
The reality is that we cannot do anything about it. The deal is take the allowance or take what you are given. It is however a sad refection of the times and the total lack of overall respect shown towards pilots by the management of this company. For many it will be yet another nail in the coffin and more will leave because of it. However what I would say is not to let this get to you and just accept the inconvenience and embrace your new home. I look at it now as my final move in the company. The next will be home and sooner rather than later if the vindictive rostering department keep giving me dangerous and unacceptable rosters.
Good luck to all those affected but don't allow these money driven idiots to drive you to depair. It is just their house which you can give back with no consequence when you leave!
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 06:02
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Originally Posted by gardenshed
Went to have a look at South today, came away totally depressed there's absolutely nothing there. If you run out of milk it's a car ride to the nearest shop.
Also a large school is being built on the site as well, right next to the main road in and out. Can't wait for the traffic log jam that will be twice a day once thats up and running.
There is talk of a community centre sometime in 2017, thats still a far way off and the place is still a building site.
Perhaps Norwegian isn't that bad after all, I will go to their open day with a different set of eyes thats for sure.
Have they finished the enormous mosque that is going up there yet?
You will have to come and use the facilities at MH, and gaze longingly at the proposed site of the supermarket which has still not commenced construction.

Oh, if anyone can understand the location of the roundabout on the new dual carriageway on 34th St, do share, as I is officially mystified.......
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 06:58
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Easy for me to say because I'm not a victim of all this. (YET)

But it's time we started saying NO!!
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 08:12
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Sorry to hear the bad news about DSO

Guys are you really sure that's the last move?

What about Dubai World Central in the future?
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 09:41
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Thumbs down you have to see it

Went this morning to see the South.
A pathetic labour camp under the sun - no swimming pool or tennis (when even the most average compound in Dubai will have those) no grocery either, far away from any facility, in the middle of one of the most notorious evening traffic jams. Villas without any shape, precast concrete at 90° angles, repeating the same pattern forever. Dozens of children playgrounds, all similar - nothing for kids above 6.
Every component with the brand CHEAP in bold letters on it. A garden which doesn't even deserve this name (hello Peter how are you ? hello Dan ! hello Barbara, what's new since yesterday ? ho, the Smiths have their in-laws at home...)
What have we done to suddenly have our lives spoiled this way ? (especillay now when we are already fighting to overcome fatigue and over-filled rosters)
So after visit, family said "no way" ....
Have to vacate home before October ? that's 3 months to find a new job - possible, now that we are really motivated - then 3 other months for resignation.
Good luck in attracting new joiners with this cake...
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 09:46
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frankie777

do you really think that the guarantee is of any value? Rather more toilet paper?

Good luck!
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 10:48
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By staying in company accomodation I've paid off my mortgage back home.
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 11:18
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Had a look, what a dreadful, soulless, artificial monstrosity of a compound (labour camp?)...

Looks like everybody is just putting pot plants and plastic grass in their (very small) L shaped gardens. I there a rule book that prohibits the planting of trees?

Summer is going to be fun. No shade to enjoy your L shaped 40 square meters outside your house. Hello indoor living. At least the whole neighbourhood can see, and join you for a barbie, since you will have zero privacy.

Love the double garage with no roof. Must be part of the plan to save on DEWA fees, just cook outside on your car!

Who the hell designed this place?
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 12:12
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Those of you that say you are leaving
1 Don't expect anyone to care
2 My guess is most of those that say they will leave wont
I am for different reasons money bucket full but the sh.t bucket is over flowing
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 12:20
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Garages of villas already occupied are overflowing with kids bikes, boxes, luggage, shelves (some drilled on the walls) various items of furniture...
On two occasions, I saw a woman looking as she had been through all the burden of life, watching desperately a the mess outside, which could not be accommodated inside.
A lot of domestic disputes looming on the horizon - all that we need to perform our flying duties calmly and safely...
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 13:02
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... and you would have accomplished exactly the same had you taken the allowance.
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 13:10
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Nakbin330 I agree.
I decided I didn't need the stress of dealing with the volatile Dubai property. I just played the money market to pay off the house back home.
When I leave, hand over keys and go. Friends have sold here, generally the profit made is about on par with what I've done. As I said, I just couldn't be bothered buying. But, each to there own. I never criticised those that did
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 17:52
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Good luck trying to find anything decent with the minuscule allowance. Even if you do find an affordable option, with the rate at which rental prices increase it won't be very long before you have to move again, downsizing because the allowance never keeps up with inflation.
If you planning on buying, who has approx. 800k lying around to pay the 25% deposit required for the mortgage on a three bed villa. Not to mention all the other hidden costs including DEWA etc.
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Old 9th Apr 2016, 05:29
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Originally Posted by Neektu
Frankie, that guy yells five times a day actually:-)
Based on local customs and laws, you guys should have one at Meydan as well
Chaps, Meydan is liberally surrounded by mosques already. The chorus currently consists of 5, with varying melodious qualities.
I think the target of 500m between places of worship has been achieved for those of the Faith, and the noise bounces off the concrete jungle quite nicely.
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Old 9th Apr 2016, 05:39
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Originally Posted by kammel
Had a look, what a dreadful, soulless, artificial monstrosity of a compound (labour camp?)...

Looks like everybody is just putting pot plants and plastic grass in their (very small) L shaped gardens. I there a rule book that prohibits the planting of trees?

Summer is going to be fun. No shade to enjoy your L shaped 40 square meters outside your house. Hello indoor living. At least the whole neighbourhood can see, and join you for a barbie, since you will have zero privacy.

Love the double garage with no roof. Must be part of the plan to save on DEWA fees, just cook outside on your car!
From the perspective of one who lives in MS:

When I went to look at the then new DSO I thought what a dreadful, souless, artificial monstrosity of a labour camp. All new compounds look the same without greenery...

Trees take time to grow Many of us have planted trees. Shade is quite easy to organise - shouldn't be beyond the wit of most pilots. Then again, maybe it is

Privacy? Again, see above about doing something for yourself

You are right about the weird garage roof... But again, shouldn't take long to organise a cover (like the tenants of the 3 bed villas at Arenco/DIC who managed to do it without crying a river)


Personally I do not know of anyone who, since moving here, doesn't actually like the place, and we came here from DIC which was quite possibly some of the best EK accommodation there was. The villas are spacious, all 4 bedrooms are en-suite - and you can take a dump without blocking the system btw just to put that rumour to rest

Originally Posted by kobus dune
Garages of villas already occupied are overflowing with kids bikes, boxes, luggage, shelves (some drilled on the walls) various items of furniture...
On two occasions, I saw a woman looking as she had been through all the burden of life, watching desperately a the mess outside, which could not be accommodated inside.
There is AMPLE space for storage. What we have left in our garage is stuff that we simply don't want inside. Possibly the lady in question had only just moved here. After all, there have been several houses occupied in just the last week...
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Old 9th Apr 2016, 06:37
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Well said white knight!
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Old 9th Apr 2016, 08:04
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Apparently there is already some special decoration in the show villa master bedroom. Well worth a look.....
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Old 9th Apr 2016, 10:27
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Here is my theory.

I think most of the villas that the pilots are in are still owned by DSO. DSO is owned by Sheihk Ahmed is it not? He is the boss of EK. I don't think he will approve anything that would affect either of his interests.
The decision has been made to remove all EK from cedre villas. This achieves 2 things. Firstly a saving on rental for EK and secondly DSO can now rent out or sell these villas to other people at a higher price. Good for both businesses.
The guys in semmer who think it wont happen there better have a good think about this theory.

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Old 9th Apr 2016, 11:08
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Kent College

Has anybody asked if Kent will give EK pilots a discount? I looked at their fees and they are unaffordable. It seems bizarre that they would have a school, essentially catering for EK, with fees way above the education allowance. I guess that means most of the students will come from outside- can you imagine the traffic then?
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