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Well? Any news from the AAR Meeting?

Old 22nd Mar 2016, 10:47
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Well? Any news from the AAR Meeting?

For those of us who attended the Meeting today with AAR, what can you tell the rest of us about what took place? What was discussed? What was said? Come on, any info?????????
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 11:17
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 11:34
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Apparently another day off lost into the ether. No crewing shortage, rosters well within legal limits and acceptable. Keep on chugging boys and girls!
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 13:27
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Really? Oh well....
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 13:29
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If that's true Silver, I can't see the point of the excercise. ( well perhaps I can, but as something productive, I don't get it. )
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 13:42
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Apparently another day off lost into the ether. No crewing shortage, rosters well within legal limits and acceptable. Keep on chugging boys and girls!
Did you expect something different?
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 14:02
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Predictable...
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 14:12
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My personal opinion: for him, just in order to say " I summoned them up informally to ask what and if something was wrong,but everything was fabulous and everyone happy. Hence rumors are fake, pilots are motivated, money is plenty and we are not under-manned! "
what do you guys expected?
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 14:23
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We will soon hear that we will be able to bid for the remainder of our 42 days leave. This will of course fix everything.......It is unfortunate that the extra leave will probably not be able to be taken when you would like it.
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 14:38
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I have 40+ in my bank...
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 15:25
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I think most do LJ
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 16:22
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That was a CLASSIC!!! LMAO
 
Old 22nd Mar 2016, 16:32
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It could well be the case that in light of the tradegy that occurred to FZ and the RT article suggesting it may have been fatigue, EK would be very cautious to admit to a crewing shortage and the resultant abuse to its current crew in the public domain. I think a lot more light may be shed on this issue...
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 16:48
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In my opinion the meeting was well conducted. He listened and had Rostering answer most of the questions that were asked. With due respect it was one of the best meetings. Let's wait for the outcome.
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 17:21
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Pmasha,
Did you attend the meeting?
If yes can you please give us a short report?
Thanks
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 17:30
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as I said before only company men were invited, they should have invited pilots who put in their resignation
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 20:03
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RB I disagree , I know one of them and he is not a company ma
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 21:59
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Pmasha has only had about 3 posts and they are completely pro company. Are you management sir? Genuine question.
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Old 23rd Mar 2016, 00:54
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PMASHA

A manager being nice isn't really what people were after from that meeting, although it would have been a stellar change from the status quo.

People, I think, generally want 3 or 4 things from the company at the moment:

1) Fewer flying hours
2) More money, we've lost about 10% over the last few years alone due to inflation
3) Commutable rosters, as unrealistic as that may be
4) 42 days leave, given in proper blocks, not in 4 or 5 days stretches, with enough ALTs to cover them.

Any commitments on any of those?

The point wasn't for rostering to answer questions, this wasn't a washup it was supposed to be him finding out what was wrong so he can fix them.

If all the main points were met with 'no', then you'd have been better off spending your time asking for technical advice in Sharaf DG.

And RB, absolute nonsense. I know of 3 or 4 people who were invited and not a single company man between them, and not a single warning letter handed out either, for the record. Some of them were on their notice period.
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Old 23rd Mar 2016, 04:23
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So, all I get so far - is that Rosters were discussed, and a little about our 42 days of leave? Is that all? WERE NO OTHER AREAS ADDRESSED?

Did He NOT ask - Why are so many leaving? And why are so few joining?

Did He NOT ask for recommendations from the pilots who were invited, as to how to fix things? Or at least ask us What is Wrong?

Did Anyone at all go to this meeting???

I would wait for the company to advise on the topics and outcome through the proper channels, but I doubt that will happen - just like we never heard anything from "THE SURVEY".
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