EK: How many resigned today?
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The number I heard was 27. That should mostly be due to the timing of the school allowance. I am sure there are some there for the payout, if we get one, but the smart ones will wait until April 1st 
in case the payout is not made until June.
The seniority list at EK is completely worthless. Ghost pilots on there that have been gone forever, plus the numbers that are being reused. It is grossly inaccurate.
in case the payout is not made until June.The seniority list at EK is completely worthless. Ghost pilots on there that have been gone forever, plus the numbers that are being reused. It is grossly inaccurate.
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That ghost pilots that been gone forever are still on the list is just not true. If so, give us a couple of staff numbers to verify. Also, reuse of staffno was a cabin crew thing and wouldn't affect the seniority list anyhow as it is based on DOS (not the operating system, but Date of Service)
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That ghost pilots that been gone forever are still on the list is just not true. If so, give us a couple of staff numbers to verify. Also, reuse of staffno was a cabin crew thing and wouldn't affect the seniority list anyhow as it is based on DOS (not the operating system, but Date of Service)
I will open it up and dig into the few numbers I have written around here, somewhere.
Thanks tirren. I did not know that the old numbers given had been new ones now.
How often is seniority list updated? Gonna track a 380 CA who just left a few weeks ago.
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im assuming all of you on here joined every company you worked for with 10k plus widebody jet hours and was NEVER young fo. Get down off your high horse and stop forgetting where you came from. Its the circle of life, give others a chance! YOU WERE ONCE THAT INEXPERIENCED WIDE EYED FO!!
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I think the DOS stands for Date of Seniority?
Also the seniority list seems to go up and down. Not sure about the ghost pilots but one colleague mentioned that the cadets enter the seniority list after they graduate so this would account for variations. However looking at the admin competency levels in EK, I can only guess the list is run as competently as accomodation, staff travel and HR to name but a few depts!
Also the seniority list seems to go up and down. Not sure about the ghost pilots but one colleague mentioned that the cadets enter the seniority list after they graduate so this would account for variations. However looking at the admin competency levels in EK, I can only guess the list is run as competently as accomodation, staff travel and HR to name but a few depts!
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I think the DOS stands for Date of Seniority?
Also the seniority list seems to go up and down. Not sure about the ghost pilots but one colleague mentioned that the cadets enter the seniority list after they graduate so this would account for variations. However looking at the admin competency levels in EK, I can only guess the list is run as competently as accomodation, staff travel and HR to name but a few depts!
Also the seniority list seems to go up and down. Not sure about the ghost pilots but one colleague mentioned that the cadets enter the seniority list after they graduate so this would account for variations. However looking at the admin competency levels in EK, I can only guess the list is run as competently as accomodation, staff travel and HR to name but a few depts!
A cadet gets a staffno when he/joins and is added to the seniority list when starting the actual Boeing/Airbus course with that later date as DoS. That's why you see lower staffnos sometimes further down the list.
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im assuming all of you on here joined every company you worked for with 10k plus widebody jet hours and was NEVER young fo. Get down off your high horse and stop forgetting where you came from. Its the circle of life, give others a chance! YOU WERE ONCE THAT INEXPERIENCED WIDE EYED FO!!
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With all due respect an aircraft is an aircraft is an aircaft. You Must begin somewhere. Experience has alot to do with it but ive met kids that flew circles around 10k plus captains. What about those guys who couldnt fly a visual in San Fran? Were they inexperienced? We are our worst enemy in Aviation. Instead of opening up our arms to new comers knowing the struggle of this industry. We start condeming the newbies who werent as fortunate as us to land a big shinny jet job straight out of Flight school.
As as i said before get off your high horse. Id much rather fly with a 3000 hour turbo prop fo than a 6000 hour child of the magenta.
As as i said before get off your high horse. Id much rather fly with a 3000 hour turbo prop fo than a 6000 hour child of the magenta.
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ifly, before most of us came to EK we had served "apprenticeships" doing many take offs and landings, turnarounds, ETOPS, Military service, whatever. Many had narrow body Commands and opted for a wide body right seat to learn the ropes before moving to the left seat in a wide body.
The current situation bears no resemblance to the previous entry requirements. If the entry requirements were valid then, then there are valid now.
Of course everyone started off with no experience, the difference is before travelling far and wide we and EK made sure our experience triangles had a wide base and a library of experience to fall back on when the wheels fall off.
Who would you prefer to fly your family, a flight deck with 30,000+ hours or one with less than 10,000? It is not denigration just fact.
The current situation bears no resemblance to the previous entry requirements. If the entry requirements were valid then, then there are valid now.
Of course everyone started off with no experience, the difference is before travelling far and wide we and EK made sure our experience triangles had a wide base and a library of experience to fall back on when the wheels fall off.
Who would you prefer to fly your family, a flight deck with 30,000+ hours or one with less than 10,000? It is not denigration just fact.
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I want pilots who can fly when my family is on board not children of the magenta line. I will take the TP over most of the recent new hires . Also watch for increase failure rates on NAC both fleets.
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P-MASHShouldn't you be enjoying your weekend from the office? Theres only a few in white robes who have a reputation, but I'm sure you know this.
As far as this thread goes, Didn't TCAS send a letter out a few years back outlining the details of the availability to collect the bonus? I remember a few of the stipulations in which you aren't eligible to collect the bonus; If you are serving a final written warming, or if you are serving your notice period. I know the bonus is for the previous financial year, but I could be wrong about the TCAS letter.
Im willing to be corrected, but we all know that things are changed after the fact for the benefit of the company.
Safe flying.
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