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EK XMAS ROSTER

Old 23rd Nov 2015, 11:37
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Angry EK XMAS ROSTER

What the Fxck!!!!
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 11:40
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Tell us more....
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 11:43
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Rostered 100.6 hours!

No ULR no dead-head no Xmas off.

halas
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 11:45
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B777 Left seat, top 20% of seniority list, bottom bid.

95 hrs, handling sim, 0 preference bids attained!

Fxcking awful trips to boot!

The bucket getting filled up quickly at this moment!
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 11:53
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Join Date: May 2014
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Top bid month:

6 days leave..
9 days off...
Ground school...
Handling Sim...
2 x PPC Sim...

+ 71:20 of flying.

That's over 95 hours of duty in 16 days.
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 12:03
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This is starting to get crazy. 5 days leave, PPC, 8 days off, 76hrs. How is this sustainable.
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 12:07
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its sustainable because noone calls in fatigued or refuses a duty. Why wouldn't they try to max out the "resources". I don't agree with it, but moaning on PPRuNe about it, yet not confronting management or going fatigued isn't going to cut it. They only understand one thing...$$$
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 12:09
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Days off over Christmas (7 actually)
Two flights and a sim!

Works for me....
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 12:11
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The new roster system is working great- for the company.
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 12:21
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Top Bid, 3 returns, 2 sim supports, 3 flights in the total opposite direction to my bids. WTF!!!!!!!!! Great bidding system, not!

If I didn't know any better I'd nearly take it personally.
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 12:22
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The 380 is now almost a separate airline 7 days in a row 4 great trips in middle bid.
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 12:22
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kennedy

Mate, it doesn't matter if you're number 1 on the seniority list. If you're in bottom bid, you'll get crap. That's the way a rotating bid system works. The clue is in the name.....rotating!

Come back and complain when you get nothing whatsoever in your top month ok!

Harry

OnceBitten

Did you get your request? Assume it was Days Off over Xmas? Just asking as optimiser will try for your preferences but your seniority does not work within the group for that and it'll also try to max efficiency in roster by giving flights elsewhere to cover your string of days off that it's already given you...5 I assume?
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 12:31
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According to our illustrious leader, it's innovation week in the UAE.

Rostering have certainly embraced that with the December schedule.
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 12:47
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EK is now officially declared crazy. Close to 100 hours 2 ULRs, 1 turn, 5 EU flights all night flights. Crazy... Just plain Crazy! You need to be an idiot to even consider this outfit. Only Harry the ... Will be left here soon.
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 13:20
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Mid bid.

101 published roster.

9 DXB layovers

Of course the above is based on starting duty 60min prior - so throw on another 4-5 hours.

The company should be ashamed of themselves.

Gulf air indeed.

f.
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 13:47
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100.5 hours
So much for spending any quality family time with the wife and kids over Christmas....
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 13:50
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fliion

Then put your money where your mouth is and turn up 61 minutes before hand. Nobody forces you to brief the crew....they expect you to. If it bothers you that much, don't do it. I don't, especially for an early if it violates the previous day off. I've had zero feedback. What can they say?

Let us all know how you get on!

Harry
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 14:01
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Already did Harry.

Put my money where my mouth was. Was brought in by the fresh prince - and given an informal chat, - if it continues disciplinary proceedings.

Raised it again in a wash up in from of witnesses with above - told them that it was manipulation of FDPs and Co was putting themselves in jeopardy if there was a stewards after an accident..was told "you made your point, let's move on"

Nice to see you continue to defend.

I'll give you one thing - you're consistent.
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 14:21
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Got nothing I bid for but got wife's office Christmas party off, Christmas and NYE off, and a particular night out to see a band.
Total 96 hours including 23 hours of D/H. Odd.
I attended one of the information sessions at EGHQ and was told that the system can accept way more than five bid selections.
Wonder when that will happen?
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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 14:21
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Exactly what I bid for
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