EK XMAS ROSTER
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Runcorn,Cheshire,England
Posts: 96
its sustainable because noone calls in fatigued or refuses a duty. Why wouldn't they try to max out the "resources". I don't agree with it, but moaning on PPRuNe about it, yet not confronting management or going fatigued isn't going to cut it. They only understand one thing...$$$
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: MIDDLE EAST
Posts: 1,040
kennedy
Mate, it doesn't matter if you're number 1 on the seniority list. If you're in bottom bid, you'll get crap. That's the way a rotating bid system works. The clue is in the name.....rotating!
Come back and complain when you get nothing whatsoever in your top month ok!
Harry
OnceBitten
Did you get your request? Assume it was Days Off over Xmas? Just asking as optimiser will try for your preferences but your seniority does not work within the group for that and it'll also try to max efficiency in roster by giving flights elsewhere to cover your string of days off that it's already given you...5 I assume?
Mate, it doesn't matter if you're number 1 on the seniority list. If you're in bottom bid, you'll get crap. That's the way a rotating bid system works. The clue is in the name.....rotating!
Come back and complain when you get nothing whatsoever in your top month ok!
Harry
OnceBitten
Did you get your request? Assume it was Days Off over Xmas? Just asking as optimiser will try for your preferences but your seniority does not work within the group for that and it'll also try to max efficiency in roster by giving flights elsewhere to cover your string of days off that it's already given you...5 I assume?
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dubai
Posts: 279
EK is now officially declared crazy. Close to 100 hours 2 ULRs, 1 turn, 5 EU flights all night flights. Crazy... Just plain Crazy! You need to be an idiot to even consider this outfit. Only Harry the ... Will be left here soon.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: MIDDLE EAST
Posts: 1,040
fliion
Then put your money where your mouth is and turn up 61 minutes before hand. Nobody forces you to brief the crew....they expect you to. If it bothers you that much, don't do it. I don't, especially for an early if it violates the previous day off. I've had zero feedback. What can they say?
Let us all know how you get on!
Harry
Then put your money where your mouth is and turn up 61 minutes before hand. Nobody forces you to brief the crew....they expect you to. If it bothers you that much, don't do it. I don't, especially for an early if it violates the previous day off. I've had zero feedback. What can they say?
Let us all know how you get on!

Harry
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: usa
Posts: 1,006
Already did Harry.
Put my money where my mouth was. Was brought in by the fresh prince - and given an informal chat, - if it continues disciplinary proceedings.
Raised it again in a wash up in from of witnesses with above - told them that it was manipulation of FDPs and Co was putting themselves in jeopardy if there was a stewards after an accident..was told "you made your point, let's move on"
Nice to see you continue to defend.
I'll give you one thing - you're consistent.
Put my money where my mouth was. Was brought in by the fresh prince - and given an informal chat, - if it continues disciplinary proceedings.
Raised it again in a wash up in from of witnesses with above - told them that it was manipulation of FDPs and Co was putting themselves in jeopardy if there was a stewards after an accident..was told "you made your point, let's move on"
Nice to see you continue to defend.
I'll give you one thing - you're consistent.
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Anywhere there are cats to chase.
Age: 21
Posts: 302
Got nothing I bid for but got wife's office Christmas party off, Christmas and NYE off, and a particular night out to see a band.
Total 96 hours including 23 hours of D/H. Odd.
I attended one of the information sessions at EGHQ and was told that the system can accept way more than five bid selections.
Wonder when that will happen?
Livin' the dream…
"Work-work-work-work…"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNxz2hhSXuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoZE...ZE0nE60sk#t=32
Total 96 hours including 23 hours of D/H. Odd.
I attended one of the information sessions at EGHQ and was told that the system can accept way more than five bid selections.
Wonder when that will happen?
Livin' the dream…
"Work-work-work-work…"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNxz2hhSXuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoZE...ZE0nE60sk#t=32