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Anyone know the tax situation for Brits looking at KAL?
As most looking at this contract will have a home & family living in the UK, the 13 days off per month will take you over the '91 day limit'.
How much would her majesty want from you pay packet?
As most looking at this contract will have a home & family living in the UK, the 13 days off per month will take you over the '91 day limit'.
How much would her majesty want from you pay packet?
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What Kap & 120 said.
Agency gives a tax certificate at end of each year which shows a tax rate already paid of between 10-17% further off setting.
Also you travel into U.S. on your days off on Crew Deck. Up to individual to report Bona Fide status.
WITHOUT personal deductions - I'm figuring about $30k taxable for CAPTS - FOs tax free.
Agency gives a tax certificate at end of each year which shows a tax rate already paid of between 10-17% further off setting.
Also you travel into U.S. on your days off on Crew Deck. Up to individual to report Bona Fide status.
WITHOUT personal deductions - I'm figuring about $30k taxable for CAPTS - FOs tax free.
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As you may or may not be aware, status of 'domiciled' has become more complicated recently. There are various criteria you need to comply with in order to avoid UK income tax and having property empty, schooling, wife living there, length of contract, other family members etc all can conspire to effect your liabilities.
My best advice is to do a few searches and see if there's a common theme and, most importantly, seek professional advice. The Fry Group are used by quite a few pilots, EK, BA & CP and would be a good start. They are probably due a visit next month or so. I'd also then get secondary professional advice just to make sure they're the same and always in writing. I'm sure other posters could recommend someone they use.
Making a rash decision now could have massive implications on your earning potential and personal future wealth. Good luck.
Harry
As you may or may not be aware, status of 'domiciled' has become more complicated recently. There are various criteria you need to comply with in order to avoid UK income tax and having property empty, schooling, wife living there, length of contract, other family members etc all can conspire to effect your liabilities.
My best advice is to do a few searches and see if there's a common theme and, most importantly, seek professional advice. The Fry Group are used by quite a few pilots, EK, BA & CP and would be a good start. They are probably due a visit next month or so. I'd also then get secondary professional advice just to make sure they're the same and always in writing. I'm sure other posters could recommend someone they use.
Making a rash decision now could have massive implications on your earning potential and personal future wealth. Good luck.
Harry
Unfortunately, for Aussies, I can't see how you'd be anything but resident for tax purposes, so you'd be on the hook for everything above what you could show had been already paid.
Still potentially attractive.
Still potentially attractive.
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South Korea is not the best place in the world to work. The food is crap, it is extremely cold and miserable in the winter, much worse than Europe and the "culture" is very weird, particularly in airlines. English is hardly spoken and when it is then generally very badly. They also have a thing about "learning by humiliation"
...the 13 days off per month will take you over the '91 day limit'
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I think it goes in cycles. New batch of Capts now have the time including the 380 now.
I hope a lot of pilots go this time, very few did last time.
Dropp, I can't think of who you are referring to , Canadian , ex mil, left EK to get there and then rejected. Where did he end up?
I think worth mentioning is that it is 11 days off per month including all vacation. You might and I stress might get an extra day once in awhile on your travel days but don't plan on it. A lot depends where you live.
FO upgrades? Did he say 380 expat FO s to upgrade to Capt on the 380 and if so how long til an upgrade.
Also what staff travel/ zed /OAL agreements do expats have with KAL?
I hope a lot of pilots go this time, very few did last time.
Dropp, I can't think of who you are referring to , Canadian , ex mil, left EK to get there and then rejected. Where did he end up?
I think worth mentioning is that it is 11 days off per month including all vacation. You might and I stress might get an extra day once in awhile on your travel days but don't plan on it. A lot depends where you live.
FO upgrades? Did he say 380 expat FO s to upgrade to Capt on the 380 and if so how long til an upgrade.
Also what staff travel/ zed /OAL agreements do expats have with KAL?
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UK Tax - Statutory Residence Tests
Nakbin,
The UK tax rules changed significantly a couple of years ago, and the 90/180 day guidance is no longer a 'blanket' rule. The current rules are published by HMRC in the Statutory Residence Tests Guidance document, downloadable from the following link - https://www.gov.uk/government/public...dence-test-srt . If the link doesn't work, go to the HMRC website (hmrc.gov.uk), and search for document RDR3.
I can recommend it as a better sleep aid than OMA, but some of its contents will probably serve as a wake-up call!
7B
The UK tax rules changed significantly a couple of years ago, and the 90/180 day guidance is no longer a 'blanket' rule. The current rules are published by HMRC in the Statutory Residence Tests Guidance document, downloadable from the following link - https://www.gov.uk/government/public...dence-test-srt . If the link doesn't work, go to the HMRC website (hmrc.gov.uk), and search for document RDR3.
I can recommend it as a better sleep aid than OMA, but some of its contents will probably serve as a wake-up call!
7B
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The UK tax rules changed significantly a couple of years ago, and the 90/180 day guidance is no longer a 'blanket' rule. The current rules are published by HMRC in the Statutory Residence Tests Guidance document, downloadable from the following link - https://www.gov.uk/government/public...dence-test-srt . If the link doesn't work, go to the HMRC website (hmrc.gov.uk), and search for document RDR3.
I can recommend it as a better sleep aid than OMA, but some of its contents will probably serve as a wake-up call!
The easiest answer is to "legally" divorce the missus, but you didn't hear it from me and I don't know anyone who would stoop to such levels
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South Korea is not the best place in the world to work. The food is crap, it is extremely cold and miserable in the winter, much worse than Europe and the "culture" is very weird, particularly in airlines. English is hardly spoken and when it is then generally very badly. They also have a thing about "learning by humiliation"
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Good question re travel bennies - So I asked directly & specifically.
Here is what I gathered from verbal response.
When you travel to ICN to rotate in for your days "on" its bizzo pos space.
On way back to your domicile its "Y" upgradeable to J according to the info sheet handed out - however VP FLT OPS KAL interjected during the Agency guys presentation and said "guys it's biz both ways every time - trust me it won't be an issue"
Re Family - you get four (ALTs) return tickets positive space for you, your wife and kids Y upgradeable to J on the KAL network per annum. This can be a multi stop sector ie LHR - ICN - AKL or whatever, doesn't matter. And you don't have to be traveling together, as in its four per individual direct family member. As long as it's on the KAL network - you are guaranteed a seat for you and fam four times per year. During this discussion CAPT RM (ex EK) spoke up and said that 9 out of ten times he and his fam were upgraded to biz. So KAL offer four ALTs confirmed per year per family member with a 90% chance up upgrades which gives you an idea how far out of the ballpark EK are. Also doesn't matter how old your kids are. If you go to 65 and they're 40.. They are your kids and entitled. Sheds a different light on EKs cut off of kids at a young age - I digress. Also full ZED priveleges for you and fam on OALs.
Personally I've been averaging 12 day off a month in the last year - these are 2's and 3's at a time and dont help my fatigue & quality time at home. The KAL contract gives you more in a row and I think will suit many of the younger and older guys.
Those in the middle life stage like me with kids in good schools at a critical age - hmm different story - as housing / schooling here decent....as long as the 3rd floor doesn't fckk with me , fine..but.first bit of nazi drama - I'm gone.
I think (and dearly hope) they will get a good few and a mini exodus takes place
I know, pathetic that I'm not pulling for my team - that's sad... But neither is anyone I know
"What to do sahib..."
Good question re travel bennies - So I asked directly & specifically.
Here is what I gathered from verbal response.
When you travel to ICN to rotate in for your days "on" its bizzo pos space.
On way back to your domicile its "Y" upgradeable to J according to the info sheet handed out - however VP FLT OPS KAL interjected during the Agency guys presentation and said "guys it's biz both ways every time - trust me it won't be an issue"
Re Family - you get four (ALTs) return tickets positive space for you, your wife and kids Y upgradeable to J on the KAL network per annum. This can be a multi stop sector ie LHR - ICN - AKL or whatever, doesn't matter. And you don't have to be traveling together, as in its four per individual direct family member. As long as it's on the KAL network - you are guaranteed a seat for you and fam four times per year. During this discussion CAPT RM (ex EK) spoke up and said that 9 out of ten times he and his fam were upgraded to biz. So KAL offer four ALTs confirmed per year per family member with a 90% chance up upgrades which gives you an idea how far out of the ballpark EK are. Also doesn't matter how old your kids are. If you go to 65 and they're 40.. They are your kids and entitled. Sheds a different light on EKs cut off of kids at a young age - I digress. Also full ZED priveleges for you and fam on OALs.
Personally I've been averaging 12 day off a month in the last year - these are 2's and 3's at a time and dont help my fatigue & quality time at home. The KAL contract gives you more in a row and I think will suit many of the younger and older guys.
Those in the middle life stage like me with kids in good schools at a critical age - hmm different story - as housing / schooling here decent....as long as the 3rd floor doesn't fckk with me , fine..but.first bit of nazi drama - I'm gone.
I think (and dearly hope) they will get a good few and a mini exodus takes place
I know, pathetic that I'm not pulling for my team - that's sad... But neither is anyone I know
"What to do sahib..."
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You have to wonder if it's a complete cultural thing that EK and other ME carriers don't offer what is on the table everywhere else. It's as if each is waiting to let the other guy be first to offer a commute type contract or 4 ALT's per year and then the wall will crumble… but as we all know, the culture is one of… you can't give in as it will show weakness and we certainly can't have that. We'd rather have pilots who are literally tired of our ways and fatigued to the hilt using layovers for basically getting caught up on sleep anymore these days.
Who will be the first….??? Lol….
Kap
Who will be the first….??? Lol….
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The 4 annual tickets are not positive space. At ticket issue, they may be confirmed economy, upgradable to business, or they may be waitlisted. It depends on day, flight and full fare bookings.
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Is it possible that since a few other things are changing at KAL that the ALT's are indeed now confirmed? Only ask because it does seem like KAL are trying to make some new changes for the better for flight crew what with the 380 DEC openings to all as well as FO's now apparently being upgraded…..?
Just wondering out loud.
Kap
Is it possible that since a few other things are changing at KAL that the ALT's are indeed now confirmed? Only ask because it does seem like KAL are trying to make some new changes for the better for flight crew what with the 380 DEC openings to all as well as FO's now apparently being upgraded…..?
Just wondering out loud.
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My bs side of the balance is reaching the limit here at EK.
I couldn't make it to the roadshow.
- Are they taking direct entry rated FOs onto the 380?
- If yes, could anyone PM me a contact ie email from the guys that did the roadshow so I can get all the fact sheets?
Appreciate it
And remember there's a better life out there waiting for us
I couldn't make it to the roadshow.
- Are they taking direct entry rated FOs onto the 380?
- If yes, could anyone PM me a contact ie email from the guys that did the roadshow so I can get all the fact sheets?
Appreciate it
And remember there's a better life out there waiting for us