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Old 25th May 2015, 10:24
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I'm speechless
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Old 25th May 2015, 10:26
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Its not the pilots who are leaving but the numbers that are planning to leave they should be worrying about. Not many skippers I know are not seriously looking at other places.
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Old 25th May 2015, 10:27
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O/T threshold reduction will assist with swaps, NOT!
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Old 25th May 2015, 10:27
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TCAS isn't bothered one little bit, he retires this Nov with a prov fund in the 7 figure range USD or UKP.

So he is alright Jack!

The extra mile for many now will be to the door, without a backwards glance at the pit and the increasing number of aircraft undergoing "Maintenance" near Mirdif.

Mrs Alwayz was upbeat, back on the Farm for Sept 1st minus whatever outstanding leave I have in the bank.

Class man management "Pit Style"
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Old 25th May 2015, 10:29
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Pay Review is out...!

We didn't get the 3%.

It's spin. It's a contractual step which was par to the package when you joined.

We got nothing but a slight reduction in overtime.

The way that some people are interpreting this just shows how the company has managed to pull the wool over people's eyes for so long now.
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Old 25th May 2015, 10:30
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Recuitment will thrive with that announcement !
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Old 25th May 2015, 10:30
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Might as well start my new sick policy when down route...much more effective.
What a total ball ache!
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Old 25th May 2015, 10:40
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AAR Laughing at us all the way to the bank!!
 
Old 25th May 2015, 10:46
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I wonder when this will sink in?!

As pinfish mentioned, I am starting to believe the shortage numbers of guys/gals has been over exaggerated by us on this forum.
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Old 25th May 2015, 10:56
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Wondering why few if any of us are getting 42 days leave vs just the 30 mandated by law….

There has to be a reason for that… and I still think it's manning issues, both cabin crew and pilots.

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Old 25th May 2015, 11:10
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Can't believe he could waste so much space in saying we are getting f@ck all.

Even more insulting to have to wait to be told. The only true words from him was to state the future would be challenging.
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Old 25th May 2015, 11:11
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Kapitanleutnant - i don't disagree, the signs are clear but if its really true that aircraft are being "parked" and "we have 3 A380s sitting in Hamburg with no one to fly them", then we would have seen something similar to the 2007-2008 pay rise numbers. I still stand by we aren't as desperate as some say we are...at least for now anyway.

I'm sure you can read through the frustration. I was expecting something big, but I politley have had it with listening about our crewing issues.
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Old 25th May 2015, 11:33
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov
Can't believe he could waste so much space in saying we are getting f@ck all.

Even more insulting to have to wait to be told. The only true words from him was to state the future would be challenging.
Of course it could be challenging. His repatriation flight in November could he cancelled due to lack of crew. He may have to fly with BA
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Old 25th May 2015, 11:33
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Come on guys, what were you expecting!!

Give them a step increase and let's see what happens! I bet there's a war chest ready in waiting!!
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Old 25th May 2015, 11:38
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Disgusted

Not that it really matters in the big scheme of things, but does anyone know if our cabin crew colleagues have received anything yet? Engineers?Dispatchers, ground staff etc?

Does anyone have accurate increases for our friends to the south or North?

Just wondering?

Over and Out
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Old 25th May 2015, 11:48
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Insult and a joke it's as simple as that.

Open the HR page on the portal and read what HH says:

"I'm counting on you dedication and teamwork for next year"

Well he can stick that where sand doesn't blow, I won't be here!!!!!.
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Old 25th May 2015, 11:54
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I'm shocked, I thought you would get at least the step plus 10%. They really have no idea of the problem they have.
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Old 25th May 2015, 12:13
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So the 330/340 fleet that has the most duty hours (yet usually the least flight hours), least days off, and all the $hit flights will get screwed just a little bit harder. Unbelievable.
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Old 25th May 2015, 12:14
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Another pay cut

To me it's another pay cut. The step increase is for our seniority. Here is the link for the official infilation rate in UAE.

United Arab Emirates Inflation Rate Forecast

And that's from the government. We all know that it's biased from our bills.
Re reduction in overtime threshold, it's not something given to us, it's a fraction of what has been stolen from us years back.

I'm not venting, angry or frustrated anymore. I'm just giving the facts. I wasn't expecting much and I was right.

I'm still sending out applications....only if I had a better passport I'd be gone by now. I'm one of those who is stuck and that's what they are counting on.

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Old 25th May 2015, 12:19
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My guess is there has been a change of policy. I would not be surprised if we in the next month will welcome new colleagues who have never flown a jet.

All that will do is put more pressure on the training dept. The logic probably being "if they can do it with cadets, they can do it with turboprop pilots".

By opening this segment there will be no shortage.

Maybe...maybe not.

Otherwise its bold move, borderlining cocky, to only give the 3% in the second best year.

How is the saying. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I dont think I shall buy into the extra mile rhetoric again..
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