EK annual hours

[VLS with ice]

950 total block of which just over 800 "ek" time

[White Knight]

888 Block. Much of it sleeping in a bunk (noisy kids notwithstanding) so the 'EK' time quite a lot lower...

[framer]

We are all tapped out and now the word is out worldwide about the horrible conditions; leave, medical clinic, rosters, hours. 7-8 days off with back to back flights. Layovers now 12hrs45 in SEZ ... USA with the majority layove

That's true. Down in NZ Ausi everyone is aware of how hard you guys are working. I've recently seen two guys pull the pin at the last minute after gaining more info on your lifestyles. It was until a year or two ago seen as a place to go to gain financial security.....now, not worth it.
Good luck to you all.

[GLAndy]

890 hours block, and thankfully heading on leave. I can't be bothered with stick time. B777 Captain, so doing less ULR than last year.

[ridingthetops]

780 h block, 33 days of leave, 3 times called sick, 380 skipper

[expat400]

You guys spend a lot of time in the aircraft, that's for sure. But it would be interesting to see the number of duty days per year in relation to these block hours. 900 BLH can feel very differently depending on the work patterns.

[fliion]

All these hours are based on going through eGate @ 60min prior.

: /

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[Rogerwilko]

930 Hours in 365, with two ULR's to do I will be 978 hours by the end of the month and will actually be 978 Hours in 365 by the end of the month.

What a perfect situation, we don't count bunk hours towards our monthly or annual limits, from an Ops manual signed off by the UAE GCAA, but nowhere in the GCAA's currently published CAR's is this legal.

Pushing through, EK's own medical department has a requirement introduced that anyone who reports being fatigued is subject to a mandatory CDT Test for alcohol consumption (it's nothing to do with your workload or sleep pattern)

Carbohydrate deficient transferrin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Because you're fatigue is obviously not caused by flying way beyond the GCAA's published legal CAR maximums, no it's because you're obviously an alcoholic. Thus imtimidating any pilot from reporting fatigued or going sick fatigued, because if they fail the test (the limit and requirement for which is not officially published by the GCAA) you're medical is immediately removed and you're fired.

You could of course report you're concerns "confidentially" to the GCAA, who will Imediatley call you're employer who will cordially invite you in for a not so friendly chat.

We are to my mind creating the perfect environment for an accident and or incident but the only option left for the "grown ups" is to keep pushing. Add the general couldn't give a f**ck attitude spreading both sides of the flight deck door and in engineering, it's beyond general pissed offness, it's now just getting plain scary.

Personally I'm tired, can't recall the last time I had a proper nights sleep and my health and personal life are suffering, I feel it in myself, I'm hard work to be around and I'm looking for an out.

[fliion]

Rogewilko - Can you clarify what you are saying about fatigue and CDT. Is that a rumor or confirmed?

Is it if you call SKF, file an ASR or FRMS?

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[anson harris]

730 hours (blocks, not factored) in my last 12 months. Left recently.

[Rogerwilko]

Any fatigue report that requires a visit to the Doc, ie at the request of FS, or fleet. Call SKF and you have to submit a fatigue report that is highly likely to result in a request to visit the Doc, the doc is now required to do CDT for a report of fatigue by the GCAA, by ASR less likely. It all depends on what you put on the fatigue report.

[Emma Royds]

777 F/O

Un factored

903 in the past 12 months and 870 in the previous 12 months.

My annual total was up to 923 very recently.

Proof that there are F/Os that have been working just as hard as a number of Captains and have been doing so for a while as well.

[whyworry]

Over 970 Hrs Block A380 around 800 "stick" in 365 days
Feel absolutly stuffed

[natops]

hrs

over 900 total block last 12 months..

777 FO

Not funny...

[Yossarian]

I'm guessing the numbers may have changed since my last post. Let's hear the latest numbers.

I'm on 830 stick time consistently. Block hours seem to stay in the early 900s, never more than 930.

Fatbus skipper.

[uba737]

860 stick time, 930 time on aircraft last 12 months! B777

[CaptainChipotle]

Originally Posted by Rogerwilko

Any fatigue report that requires a visit to the Doc, ie at the request of FS, or fleet. Call SKF and you have to submit a fatigue report that is highly likely to result in a request to visit the Doc, the doc is now required to do CDT for a report of fatigue by the GCAA, by ASR less likely. It all depends on what you put on the fatigue report.

I know this post is from a year ago, but since this thread is active again, I feel it's necessary to post current, accurate information.

I've called in fatigued quite a few times... Let's say more than twice, less than 7 times. I have friends that have called multiple times as well. Nobody has been called in the office or second guessed. It's your duty to remove yourself if you're unfit to fly (OMA 7.3). EK also has responsibility to roster you so that you can rest accordingly.

I fly with a lot of colleagues that are scared to call in fatigued. As long as you can explain yourself and have a valid reason, the company WILL support you. If you're too tired to safely operate the aircraft you owe it to yourself, your family, your passengers, and the EK brand name to remove yourself. Plain and simple.

How can you blame the company for rostering you such a grueling schedule if you show up for it and claim to be "fit" for your entire roster?

A lot of guys control their roster by calling in sick, when in fact, they are too tired and just need rest. You can't blame the company if they think there is a "sickness" problem. It's time to call a spade a spade, unless you guys can legitimately and safely fly as much as you claim to be flying. If that's the case, you're better men then I am. I have my personal standards as far as operating and when I can't meet those standards I make the call.

Blue skies and happy flying to you all, whether you agree with me or not. The only way it gets better here is if we change the culture within the pilot group from fear to empowerment.

Oh... Pushing a constant 900+hrs myself... Of course, with factoring I've got plenty to spare.

CC

[uba737]

Have called fatigued twice in the last year and no one has called me or contacted me for any reason!

[A320CaptDav]

Fatigue rules

Excess flying leads to fatigue which eventually leads to weaker immune system
Keep your life in check!

[Curry Goat]

990+ for the last 365, 3 fatigue reports in the last year. The word zombie comes to mind!