Uh oh......

[desertrat65]

Surprise surprise!

I only got 81 hrs! Nothing I bid for, can't do any swaps for what I want.

But hey! Hello Tomorrow!

[Rosso Noche]

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[nakbin330]

Got two weeks leave, so not complaining, but still manage to squeeze in 55:55 in twelve days.

[haveago]

Can someone please PM me the contact for CRS guys. Top bid group and got nothing I bid for.. Thanks

[nolimitholdem]

If you have leave, the system will throw out your bid and try to maximize hours flown in whatever days you don't have leave.

Hence, there is no such thing as "leave" any more, only guaranteed days off.

Perhaps this is what happened to you?

[Emma Royds]

I have often got some of what I asked for when I have leave in the month and your bid is still considered when you have leave. The lesson I learned is that it is best to have a varied bid and I will have a couple of ULRs, a selection of three crew and two crew nightstop trips and day turns. This way you are giving CRS more choices to consider that maybe appropriate for filling up your roster.

[halas]

Am on forced leave right now. Got all the days-off l was after and three trips l bid for in between.

halas

[palm]

Got nothing i bid for....an other day in paradise. Tic tac tic tac..I'm ready to eject

[wizard1]

Balance

As an avid reader but not a poster i thought I would share this.

85 hrs in April. 3 lhr's 2 syd's 14 days off 18 days free of duty. Senior. A380

Its not totally broken. Yet!

Just some perspective.

[Panther 88]

But don't bid ULRs in a vacation month. Reason; they will use vacation days as days to be acclimatised in DXB. They perhaps will put an ULR standby the day after your off day,minus you must be in DXB on nights of your vacation.

If one lives far West, you will lose 2days of vacation to get back. For instance, leave ends on the 15th, off day on 16th, ULR standby on 17th. To make yourself legal, you will have to leave from wherever on the 14th, to have two legal nights in DXB, night of the 15 and 16.

Good luck. Has been done numerous times.

[Dropp the Pilot]

Being on vacation has no effect on acclimitisation. To affect acclimitisation one has to end a DUTY outside the prescribed time band, ergo you leave on your vacation acclimitized and you return acclimitized no matter if you incrementally travel around the world to return to Dubai.

OMA.

[Panther 88]

c.
For planning purposes a crew member is assumed to be non-acclimatised upon return from leave and will require 3 local nights in Dubai prior to being assigned a ULR standby period which commences after 0600 local Dubai time.

So Dropp, how does one reconcile the above to your understanding? Especially if one is coming from the west longitudes when it takes two calendar days to reach DXB.

[falconeasydriver]

Panther, bid for turns on the month of your leave, and leave DXB acclimatised if you are worried.
Look at paragraph C and then D and how it mentions operations on the day, all shall be revealed.

[Panther 88]

That is my understanding as well. All I was doing was giving a small warning to the uninitiated that one could get a serious roster scr%#¥ing by bidding an ULR in a leave month. Unintended consequences of being "legal" after a period of leave west of 030W and then getting rostered for an ULR stby or trip the day after your leave x day. Buyer beware!

[The Turtle]

It's still your leave. Choose to be where you want. Give off-base notification during the footprint of your leave....if your choice of holiday falls outside the acclimatization "band" and they're petty enough to schedule you for a ULR right after leave, that's their fault. You gave them the req notification of your whereabouts before the roster came out. I don't see the problem.

[Dropp the Pilot]

No reconciling required. The OMA is written in English.

[donpizmeov]

Its funny how quickly things can change, only two years ago one of the Boeing fellas was having a bit of a spat with a bus driver. He wrote


"MED, DAC, CMN, BOM, MCT, AD & RSV.........

Nice roster again A330-200 Driver.....

I love winding you up "


I now look at the two rosters and see that Karma does happen, and is a real bitch. Bus driver has 15 days off next month with min group being 3, Boeing fella has some god-awful night turns and 9 days off, mostly in single or double pairs.


Lesson, no matter how good your rosters/fleet may be today, history proves it wont last forever.

[halas]

So true Don.

When l joined, all those years ago, the closest we got to India was on desent to CMB or DAC.
Still did local flights but at reasonable hours. But the 310/330 did India due to their very strange weekly-seat-allocation-cap to any foreign operator. Of course EK wanted maximum frequency and the John Deer was just too much.

Then the open sky months happened. Strewth! Never worked so hard at such crap hours.

Luckily they weren't too often, but we (on the tractor) soon found out through rostering when it was on!
Now it's very common.

I genuinely feel for the 330 guys. 380 guys? Nah! Especially those that flowed straight on to the va*ina and never got f@cked over by the "sale/no sale of aircraft and your command is delayed by four years".

However l see a day not too far away when the whale will be doing many a sh!t night turn to India etc and spread the love around.

As Don said it's swings and round-abouts. Not sure about Karma. I guess you have to believe in something....but l don't.

halas