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Old 30th Jul 2015, 18:38
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We had confirmed business seats and had done the online check-in so we just went to a normal desk to drop off the bags.

The immigration guy asked why our visa had been cancelled and we told him we were leaving permanently and that was that basically. The end of service letter is what they give you at EGHQ with your last cheque - I got mine at the end of May so it included the bonus, I actually walked out of the country with $35,000 USD in cash


FWIW today our retention money arrived in the bank - almost 8 weeks to the day from leaving. To be fair to EK they paid everything, even our outstanding Medical and Dental claims.
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Old 30th Jul 2015, 20:01
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What is "retention money"?

What method did you choose to receive your Provident Fund proceeds?
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Old 30th Jul 2015, 23:10
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I'm still waiting for my retention money, but if 4000 AED is the cost of getting out of the place, I will wear it.

O got a cheque for my provident fund...cashed in OZ ok.

I had a letter given to me in Arabic that I had to give to the immigration person, that said I was free to go.
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Old 31st Jul 2015, 01:10
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Originally Posted by Dropp the Pilot
What is "retention money"?
they keep back 4000 Dhs from your last paycheck - not sure why, but it is Dubai..

What method did you choose to receive your Provident Fund proceeds?
I did direct bank transfer to my bank account in Jersey - arrived in my account 2 weeks after leaving.
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Old 31st Jul 2015, 01:57
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Exit...

A few items from my experience which may be useful.

For packing/removal/shipping, we used Allied Pickfords, who were really good at both ends. After 19 years in EK, we had over 110 boxes, and the only breakage was one wine glass. They cleared Customs at both ends, unpacked at destination and took away all the packing materials/empty boxes etc They also bill EK directly. They were the most expensive quotation, but EK did not query the cost.

Retention Payment - it took about ten weeks and several emails to an HR contact for my Retention money to be paid, and a colleague who left at the same time had the same experience. However, no deductions were made, despite some work being done on our company accommodation. Other leavers seem to get theirs quickly, so it seems to vary. There was never any doubt that it would be paid, just a question of when.....

Provident Fund - if you elect to remain in the Provident Fund as a Deferred Member, your last two months Company Contributions to your A Fund will not be paid into your fund. This money is withheld along with your Retention Money at paid to you along with the other Retention Money. Never did get to the bottom of why this is done, but it was paid correctly in the end.

HSBC Premier Mastercard - we tried to get ahead of the game by cancelling our credit cards three months prior to departure to avoid any last minute bureaucratic issues. The bank told us that once the cards were cancelled, we then had to maintain a balance in our current account of not less than the Credit Limit on the cancelled cards for three months "to cover any unposted card charges". Moral - you might want to consider reducing your Credit Limit to an absolute minimum prior to card cancellation to avoid having to keep a large balance in your current account. We managed to get them to do this, but it was a battle - HSBC just couldn't understand why we would want to reduce a credit limit in DXB. This was just over a year ago, and I've been told subsequently that some other banks have the same requirement, so it is worth checking in advance.

Etisalat - there is a guy in etisalat whose job is to act as a coordinator for EK Staff. He was really helpful. Unfortunately I can't now find his details, but the Leaving Coordinators should have it. Having said that, cancelling my wifes mobile roaming service and getting the deposit back involved many visits to etisalat at Al Wasl. We finally got it the day before we left, but were still receiving bills from etisalat for a few fils for her phone three months later. Eventually that was also sorted out, but involved many phone calls. Moral - cancel any post paid mobile phone subscriptions well in advance and get a pre-paid sim.

Best of luck with the process to all. As others have said, there is life after DXB!

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Old 31st Jul 2015, 07:37
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Sadness

It is really sad to see so many good guys leaving.........
I wish you all the best and i really hope that this bunch of clowns will some day understand the damage they did to the company..........
I am looking forward to follow you.........as soon as my son will be out of here ......
Enjoy all of you the after EK life
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Old 31st Jul 2015, 07:58
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To answer what retention monies are:

As I understand it, it is money that is withheld from you as you leave and is used to cover any unforeseen expenses like EK accommodation having to do some extra cleaning of your villa/apartment or changing the garden back to original state, or perhaps a last etisalat/du phone bill that wasn't quite paid in full etc.

I've been told this amount is about 4000 dirhams. But you are supposed to get it back at some point.. have heard as quick as a few weeks to several months as one poster mentioned above.

During the out process checklist, you will be asked to put a bank account as to where you want these retention monies sent after you've left. I just gave them my bank account number in my home country.

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Can anyone tell me what the allowance for cargo repatriation is please? If we use either EK Skycargo or External Seafreight?

Can't find it anywhere in the manuals.

Thanks!
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Old 31st Jul 2015, 09:29
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Ah...Mr Good Cat, you have the same problem as me. Where is cargo repatriation allowance. You silly person, you should know to look in the Staff Travel Manual. It's all in there. What, you never thought of that?
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Old 31st Jul 2015, 13:10
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And another experience. I paid off my HSBC credit card, two weeks before I left. I did this at the HSBC Head Office in Dubai. I also closed my current account at the same time. The very helpful person there told me to come back 3 days before I was due to leave Dubai. When I returned, they provided me with a letter saying that my accounts were all closed, I owed no money on loans ( not that I had one ), or any credit cards. They then gave me a cheque for the approx 40000 AED that remained in my current account.
I deposited that cheque into my bank in Australia, without a problem.

So once again, everyone seems to have different experiences. But that's Dubai.

In my case, I had my sister come to Dubai for the last 3 weeks, to help with the final 'shut down'. I loaded her Australian credit cards with money, because once you close down your account in Dubai, you no longer have access to local money.
Anyway, I am sure we all do it differently, good luck to all.

Just to add, the HSBC branch I dealt with, was the one next to the Westin Hotel in Deira.

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Ah thanks SOPS!

I'll get on to it now!
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I second what SOPS said, sort out your credit cards an bank account in plenty of time.

I cancelled my local credit cards 3 months before leaving and then 7 days before my last day I transferred all the money in my bank account out to my offshore account (HSBC Global transfer) - 3 days before leaving went into the HSBC main branch in Jumeirah and closed the (now empty) account.
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Old 2nd Aug 2015, 09:13
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Sorry, I made a small error. The HSBC branch I delt with in Deria, is next to the JW Marriott hotel, not the Westin.
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Leaving before 90 notice period ( any financial consequences?) ?

After a long heart to heart with my wife and kids it looks as if our time here at EK is coming to an end and we will be packing our bags for home.

I do have another job opportunity but the start date will occur almost a month prior to the end of the EK required 90 day notice period.

Here is my question:
If I leave at 60 days instead of 90 days, what, if any, are the financial implications ( re EK) for leaving early?

( background: 9 years, living out and receiving acmdtn allowance monthly)

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Old 4th Aug 2015, 10:47
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This will be interesting so do let us know what develops. My guess would be that you can use any vacation balance you have to reduce the notice period but beyond that you will probably owe them money.
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 10:48
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I'm sure there are implications Desdi, but I don't know what. I don't even know if they will let you leave early.

Perhaps a question fit the ladies on the 'leaving desk' at HQ. They are very helpful.

Or the answer might be in the employees manual, or whatever it is called.

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Old 4th Aug 2015, 12:09
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Sorry to see you go..

Desdi,
Sorry to see you go. I had the same conversation with my family.


The lady at the leaving desk is very helpful and will answer all your questions. Make a list of them before you go there so you don't forget any. Arrive early so you can grab a number the leaving line gets long by mid morning. This is what she told me about a few of my questions.


Education- You will owe the company the remainder of the term your kids did not attend. e.g. If your last day is October 10th you will owe the company the tuition from Oct-11 through the end of the term. So best to have a leave date at end of term.


Housing Allowance- Will be prorated against the amount you used.


They will subtract your basic salary for every day shy of the three months you served.


EK will give you the 3 days off before your last day to pack up your house and get it shipped. (Not sure if that only applies if you give 3 months.) If in company housing you must be out by your last day. Conversely your allowance is figured to your last day.


The sooner you let them know the better.


Hope this helps. Glad you made it out alive.


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Old 4th Aug 2015, 13:29
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Thanks for the detailed insight and especially into the situation with your credit cards. I will pop into Emirates NBD tomorrow to get get the ball rolling!!!
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 13:36
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How does the math work for the leaving date? Do they just add 90 days to the date of your resignation email?
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 13:43
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Correct Dropp. What ever day you send your good bye email, add 90 days, and that becomes your last DOS.
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