EK still flying to Baghdad, Kabul, etc...
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EK still flying to Baghdad, Kabul, etc...
Anyone want to comment on why they think this is still happening (other than the obvious) and the contradiction of avoiding airspace over conflict areas but flying into them? It doesn't seem to make any sense.
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Re: Baghdad etc
Easy answer, money. You ate right it is a contradiction of what they write and say. I guess the routes must be full of military personnel or oil people to make it worthwhile. Certainly Erbil seems an imortant destination with a lot of investment. IS is not that far away though. As for Kabul it will remain to be seen what happens aftef the US & UK leave them on their own. Personally I find flying in to these places leaves a lot to be desired and the riska are possibly underrated by the companies that fly in to them.
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It's not just money, it's reputation and what they think is right. Reality is that you can't put passengers who wish to go to a country other than Iraq in danger by flying them over Iraq. Whereas those that but an air ticket to Iraq are fully aware of what they are getting themselves into . As for crew, airplane etc these are ultimately expendable since once you've signed that contract the airline believes they own you. And as far as they are concerned and as for the reality of how far the justice system will go to protect you in most middle eastern states are concerned, they do. I just don't understand why people still come here.
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Imagine we suspended services every time something happened at one of our destinations....we would need a pilot group less than 25% of what we have today. Imagine we stopped flying to Canada because of what happened in their parliament recently? Or suspended 6 daily flights to KHI because of what happened a few months ago? Maybe 3 daily flights to MNL because there is a well known terror group that operate regularly without making the BBC news...
Last but not least cancel 8 daily (most profitable route we have) to LHR/LGW because every IS fighter on TV we see is of british nationality and the terror alert there is 'Severe'. Please tell me you don't believe those guys become 'cut-your-head-off' happy and brain washed only after they arrive at the Turkish boarder
I'm siding with the company on this one
Last but not least cancel 8 daily (most profitable route we have) to LHR/LGW because every IS fighter on TV we see is of british nationality and the terror alert there is 'Severe'. Please tell me you don't believe those guys become 'cut-your-head-off' happy and brain washed only after they arrive at the Turkish boarder
I'm siding with the company on this one
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Seems pretty stupid to compare a couple of mentally ill people in Canada to ISIS.
Yes, there are radicals in the UK, Canada, Pakistan, Philippines et al but to try and put Toronto or London in the same category as Kabul or Erbil is absurd. Unless you are trying to claim there are large groups of armed militants actually fighting pitched ground battles just outside of YYZ and LHR.
I don't care what EK does but at least make a logical argument for it. It's just money, nothing more. The crews are expendable. Remember, Safety Third! (After profits and "brand").
One MANPAD in the hands of a militant will put paid to "siding with the company", until then, business as usual.
Keep yer head down...
Yes, there are radicals in the UK, Canada, Pakistan, Philippines et al but to try and put Toronto or London in the same category as Kabul or Erbil is absurd. Unless you are trying to claim there are large groups of armed militants actually fighting pitched ground battles just outside of YYZ and LHR.
I don't care what EK does but at least make a logical argument for it. It's just money, nothing more. The crews are expendable. Remember, Safety Third! (After profits and "brand").
One MANPAD in the hands of a militant will put paid to "siding with the company", until then, business as usual.
Keep yer head down...
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These are profitable times
Ek enjoyed formidable presence during the gulf war
Many of us value the job and if emirates stopped flying to many of those troubled destination .. We'll you know the answer to that
Ek enjoyed formidable presence during the gulf war
Many of us value the job and if emirates stopped flying to many of those troubled destination .. We'll you know the answer to that
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nolimiholdem - you got my point, all you did was state the obvious
Do i have to mention GLA in 2007? We as crew walk right next to where that exploded car was rammed into the terminal building when we get off the crew bus.....and that is no Kabul or Erbil
If you're feeling expendable, I suggest you take a reality check
Do i have to mention GLA in 2007? We as crew walk right next to where that exploded car was rammed into the terminal building when we get off the crew bus.....and that is no Kabul or Erbil
If you're feeling expendable, I suggest you take a reality check
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I was surprised to hear of terrorist activities in Manila. I was even more surprised to learn that......
"The largest Islamic terrorist group in the Philippines is the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF),"
"The largest Islamic terrorist group in the Philippines is the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF),"
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Originally Posted by mensaboy
NO..... not every ISIL fighter, as you CLEARLY stated, is from the UK.
because every IS fighter on TV we see is of british nationality
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mensaboy;
As you can see I don't post often so I'm not familiar with you like your reputation here suggests. You clearly have a problem with those that you disagree with. I am always open to criticism but you take it to a whole new level
I must correct you though, I am not British and there is a good possibility I have flown you and/or your family somewhere on the network.
I will continue to fly where I am asked to because I work for a company that puts food on my table and my kids in school; I am someone else's hero
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As you can see I don't post often so I'm not familiar with you like your reputation here suggests. You clearly have a problem with those that you disagree with. I am always open to criticism but you take it to a whole new level
I must correct you though, I am not British and there is a good possibility I have flown you and/or your family somewhere on the network.
I will continue to fly where I am asked to because I work for a company that puts food on my table and my kids in school; I am someone else's hero
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A SAM up the tailpipe of an EK plane flying in or out of a war zone, and the airline will be labeled as a high risk airline. Questions will be asked, but good answers will hard to find.
Mensa is not far from the mark.
Mensa is not far from the mark.