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New Emirates Assessment
Dear All,
I know this subject has been covered to death but there is a surprising lack of information regarding the recent changes to the assessment process at Emirates. Can somebody please provide some information regarding the new assessment stages and how best to prepare?
Thank you in advance.
Cabair351
I know this subject has been covered to death but there is a surprising lack of information regarding the recent changes to the assessment process at Emirates. Can somebody please provide some information regarding the new assessment stages and how best to prepare?
Thank you in advance.
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It's been over 13 years since I interviewed but I can't imagine the basics have changed very much.
There will be an ATPL type exam with questions about density altitude, the ITCZ, handling big airplanes, that type of thing. There will be probably be the usual "games" and group tasks. Just follow when it's time to follow and lead if the opportunity presents itself. Be sure to have a diplomatic and soft approach with your potential co-workers, especially if they're from cultures other than yours. For the interview itself rehearse your answers to the typical questions of tell us about a time when....etc. Learn something about the airline and its principals, islamic culture, dubai life. Have one or two thoughtful questions for them at the end.
And then there's the sim. Yeah you ultimately have to be able to fly so practice by taking the automatics off every chance you get. And when you're in there make good decisions. I'd say that's almost as important. For example if you're way out of position to land then throw it away, go around. They'd way rather see that then somebody go way unstable and land under marginal control halfway down the runway. Probably best not to crash.
I'm sure the recruiters will dangle the carrot of an upgrade in X number of years, and maybe they even believe it, but it will probably take longer. Know that going in. But look, if you're one of the guys with the bare minimum hours (what is it now anyway, 2500 with 2000 jet) then you're probably around 30 years old or younger so even if your upgrade takes 5 to 7 years what will you really have to complain about? I hear a lot of that on the line from 3000 hour pilots in their late twenties and I have zero time for it. Their worst case scenario is to become a wide-body captain on something by the time they're 40, probably even younger. From where I sit that's a damn good deal.
Talk to everyone you know here and discount their optimism and their pessimism by some factor - the truth is in the middle. Dubai and Emirates is what you make of it. It's true that it's not what it once was but it's still a good job and if you actually are a 2500 hour pilot it's a damn good job. Just keep a sense of haha, accept that the airline will always do whatever it wants and if it doesn't violate your bottom line you're good. Otherwise vote with your feet.
Good luck!
There will be an ATPL type exam with questions about density altitude, the ITCZ, handling big airplanes, that type of thing. There will be probably be the usual "games" and group tasks. Just follow when it's time to follow and lead if the opportunity presents itself. Be sure to have a diplomatic and soft approach with your potential co-workers, especially if they're from cultures other than yours. For the interview itself rehearse your answers to the typical questions of tell us about a time when....etc. Learn something about the airline and its principals, islamic culture, dubai life. Have one or two thoughtful questions for them at the end.
And then there's the sim. Yeah you ultimately have to be able to fly so practice by taking the automatics off every chance you get. And when you're in there make good decisions. I'd say that's almost as important. For example if you're way out of position to land then throw it away, go around. They'd way rather see that then somebody go way unstable and land under marginal control halfway down the runway. Probably best not to crash.
I'm sure the recruiters will dangle the carrot of an upgrade in X number of years, and maybe they even believe it, but it will probably take longer. Know that going in. But look, if you're one of the guys with the bare minimum hours (what is it now anyway, 2500 with 2000 jet) then you're probably around 30 years old or younger so even if your upgrade takes 5 to 7 years what will you really have to complain about? I hear a lot of that on the line from 3000 hour pilots in their late twenties and I have zero time for it. Their worst case scenario is to become a wide-body captain on something by the time they're 40, probably even younger. From where I sit that's a damn good deal.
Talk to everyone you know here and discount their optimism and their pessimism by some factor - the truth is in the middle. Dubai and Emirates is what you make of it. It's true that it's not what it once was but it's still a good job and if you actually are a 2500 hour pilot it's a damn good job. Just keep a sense of haha, accept that the airline will always do whatever it wants and if it doesn't violate your bottom line you're good. Otherwise vote with your feet.
Good luck!
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Dubai and Emirates is what you make of it. It's true that it's not what it once was but it's still a good job
To make a move to this region you need to consider the next step right from the beginning!! You will get fed up very rapidly around here and will wish to move on.
Consider: Will this be easy? Do I want to uproot my family again? Will there be options that are at least equal to the pit? Will it be as DEC, or am I ready to start as FO again?
Consider also: If you decide not to move on, you need to be aware that by getting older the risk of no longer being able to fly increases considerably around here because the way they exploit us just does not allow sufficient recuperation in the long run.
Now here’s the catch.
EK will sack you if you did not fly for one year. They might magnanimously offer you a ground job, but that simply avoids them to pay LoL! Read the fine print and you will see that LoL only sets in after more than a year of absence of flying!!! Nice trick, works most of the time.
Anyway, LoL does no longer apply after 60, same with any of the additional insurances on offer (which imho is a scam inherent in all of these!!!).
With the ever eroding T&Cs no longer allowing to put enough funds aside to cover the gap between 60 and the retirement age in most countries, this is a trap not covered since EK increased retirement age to 65 (which allowed them to lower total lifetime T&Cs with the argument that you can work longer, until 65).
EK has become a carreer step only. You need not only have a plan B, but actively pursue it and jump ship early enough. This region does not cater for age and retirement, apart for locals. This might be the biggest omission in calculations when you compare a crap outfit in the civilised world.
Think twice!
Today I would only consider a ME outfit if being out of a job, no other not even non flying option back home or when fleeing a money devoring, divorcing bitch. The boring and admittedly expensive social security in the civilised world looks ever more attractive the older you get.
And you will get older!
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Unfortunately, Glofish has pretty much summed it up with regards to experienced pilots applying to work out here.
However, if you're in you're early 20's with minimum experience of 2500 hours and no previous command - it's probably a viable option as you can see the world for 5 years then disappear. You would still have enough years left to settle into a longer-term airline back home where you can then enjoy a settled family lifestyle etc having already seen the world.
For those considering leaving stable airlines or commands and following the dream of a flying a shiny widebody across the globe it's a huge call... the time to command here will be looooong as most skippers here are both too young to retire and too financially/family-committed to leave (despite the talk on this board).
Good luck in whatever decision you make, just spend a lot of time mulling it all over and consider the consequences in the far future. It IS a one-way ticket for most.
PS: Really don't worry too much about the interview it just looks like a big deal. All they are looking for is the ability to fly on one engine safely and have a decent enough personality to not provoke violence from the guy next to you on an 18-hour shift to LA or San ran... Everything else has very little weight in the process ( Compass tests etc )...
However, if you're in you're early 20's with minimum experience of 2500 hours and no previous command - it's probably a viable option as you can see the world for 5 years then disappear. You would still have enough years left to settle into a longer-term airline back home where you can then enjoy a settled family lifestyle etc having already seen the world.
For those considering leaving stable airlines or commands and following the dream of a flying a shiny widebody across the globe it's a huge call... the time to command here will be looooong as most skippers here are both too young to retire and too financially/family-committed to leave (despite the talk on this board).
Good luck in whatever decision you make, just spend a lot of time mulling it all over and consider the consequences in the far future. It IS a one-way ticket for most.
PS: Really don't worry too much about the interview it just looks like a big deal. All they are looking for is the ability to fly on one engine safely and have a decent enough personality to not provoke violence from the guy next to you on an 18-hour shift to LA or San ran... Everything else has very little weight in the process ( Compass tests etc )...
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When did that come in?
Nothing a little lobotomy at the medical assessment couldn't fix though.