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Cabair351 I think this is what you're asking for
I interviewed in June and was unemployed at that time.
Yes there are some subtle changes.
The isometric test had none of the folding cube problems
Like what was on latestpilotjobs so don't know if that was just my test
Or all the test were that way. Hr rep actually said its a copy of what skytest has
So take that for what it's worth.
I only made it through 27 of the 40 questions and felt bad until I found out most everyone only made it that far so don't worry about that guessing on this is also bad. But the psychologist said on day 3 that they look at strategy. Ie does that applicant jump around start at the back finish first etc. as I noted the problems seemed to be getting easier past the middle mark, the psychologist said the last 10 questions are the hardest.
The sim has changed from 2 approaches to 3.
The first is the visual circuit same as before. Make sure you tell the pnf the heading downwind ie 300 degrees if you say 180 degrees opposit your present heading he will ask for the actual degree number before selecting it.
They ask for you to brief 4 things
1Which way are you going to turn after take off left or right. (I requested left as taking a right and you have to worry about that 3000 ft building as an obstacle downwind)
2 altitude you wish to fly at. I chose 2000 but the only limit atc gives you is up to 3000ft
3 airspeed you want for the pattern. I chose 240 but atc limit is 250. One guy chose to stay at flaps 5 and flaps 5 speed and passed so not a big issue. Just state what you want.
4 timing when past end of runway for your turn on base. Most popular are 45 & 60 seconds. I chose 60 seconds.
The instructor says that passing over the beach from water to land is 3 miles from touchdown to help with checking your progress on the approach but the papi are visible from the moment you turn final.
after landing they reset the sim for the v1 cut. I expected more going through the ep checklist but once I called for ep checklist I was told it was done. Simple flameout. They did simple heading vectors back to shoot an ils to 12L not even a vor exercise. They really are just wanting to see if you can handle energy management of the airplane and navigate down the ils to a go around.
Which brings me to the new third approach.
The third approach is about how quickly can you react to being put behind the jet by setting you up on a short dogleg to final at flap 5.
Because you are so close in (excess energy) I chose to immediately go to idle and gear down flaps 20. Watch the ballooning that flaps 20 will cause because your speed is so high and try requesting your heading bug at 115 as that will offset the x-wind on final and keep you from S ing down final as much on raw data. One guy was so far behind trying to get down he forgot to drop his gear down and went around but still passed day one!
The sim was their T777 on royal Royce engines and they are laggy! Anticipate this. I was used to b767 ge engines and the T777 are 4 secs slower to spool back up. I was worried about my performance that evening until I heard from the guy mentioned above that forgot his gear! So they are really looking at your decision making and briefing skills more than flying skills these days. We had 8 people in our group and by day two we had 6 so we beat the 50% average failure rate but the class behind us lost half FWIW. We had the sim at the end of the day and they said after the assessment to get a cab back to the hotel! So hopefully you get the sim in the morning so you are not out money as they provided transportation back to headquarters for them.
Day two only threat is the psychology test but
I warn you I'm an optimistic and adventurous person. I knew this already before taking the test. On day 3 was the group sessions psychology review and personal interviews. As standard practice you don't get feed back when you don't pass at the phone call at the end of the day, I did not make it. I felt good about the group session and personal interview so the only thing I can think of is the psychology test as my psychologist told me I'm a very optimistic person that is free spirited and that I tend to view rules as more as guidelines. She showed me their chart and I was in the middle on most things but to the extreme edge on those two items and I got the feeling that was not a good thing. She went on to say with my such happy positive attitude that some pilot crew members would have a hard time relating to me. I took the test with statement just be yourself.
I think the rules as guidelines put a red flag for them. What I failed to show is that my personal life is different than my professional life. For example I generally drive with the flow of traffic which is about 5 mph over the speed limit but I never fly faster than 250 knots below 10,000. I have heard from friends I have there already at emirates that they are looking for a certain type of pilot. And while they can't put their finger on it, I personally think they don't want someone that will be unhappy after being there for a couple of years. Maybe they saved me from becoming one of the many depressing commentators you see here on this forum. But it still unfortunate I didn't get the opportunity to make that decision myself it was taken away from me. On the way back home I talked to a flight attendant that said he failed his first time to interview with emirates too and on his second interview answered what they wanted to hear and passed. So take this information for what it's worth to you.
Best of luck cabair351 I hope this helps.
Yes there are some subtle changes.
The isometric test had none of the folding cube problems
Like what was on latestpilotjobs so don't know if that was just my test
Or all the test were that way. Hr rep actually said its a copy of what skytest has
So take that for what it's worth.
I only made it through 27 of the 40 questions and felt bad until I found out most everyone only made it that far so don't worry about that guessing on this is also bad. But the psychologist said on day 3 that they look at strategy. Ie does that applicant jump around start at the back finish first etc. as I noted the problems seemed to be getting easier past the middle mark, the psychologist said the last 10 questions are the hardest.
The sim has changed from 2 approaches to 3.
The first is the visual circuit same as before. Make sure you tell the pnf the heading downwind ie 300 degrees if you say 180 degrees opposit your present heading he will ask for the actual degree number before selecting it.
They ask for you to brief 4 things
1Which way are you going to turn after take off left or right. (I requested left as taking a right and you have to worry about that 3000 ft building as an obstacle downwind)
2 altitude you wish to fly at. I chose 2000 but the only limit atc gives you is up to 3000ft
3 airspeed you want for the pattern. I chose 240 but atc limit is 250. One guy chose to stay at flaps 5 and flaps 5 speed and passed so not a big issue. Just state what you want.
4 timing when past end of runway for your turn on base. Most popular are 45 & 60 seconds. I chose 60 seconds.
The instructor says that passing over the beach from water to land is 3 miles from touchdown to help with checking your progress on the approach but the papi are visible from the moment you turn final.
after landing they reset the sim for the v1 cut. I expected more going through the ep checklist but once I called for ep checklist I was told it was done. Simple flameout. They did simple heading vectors back to shoot an ils to 12L not even a vor exercise. They really are just wanting to see if you can handle energy management of the airplane and navigate down the ils to a go around.
Which brings me to the new third approach.
The third approach is about how quickly can you react to being put behind the jet by setting you up on a short dogleg to final at flap 5.
Because you are so close in (excess energy) I chose to immediately go to idle and gear down flaps 20. Watch the ballooning that flaps 20 will cause because your speed is so high and try requesting your heading bug at 115 as that will offset the x-wind on final and keep you from S ing down final as much on raw data. One guy was so far behind trying to get down he forgot to drop his gear down and went around but still passed day one!
The sim was their T777 on royal Royce engines and they are laggy! Anticipate this. I was used to b767 ge engines and the T777 are 4 secs slower to spool back up. I was worried about my performance that evening until I heard from the guy mentioned above that forgot his gear! So they are really looking at your decision making and briefing skills more than flying skills these days. We had 8 people in our group and by day two we had 6 so we beat the 50% average failure rate but the class behind us lost half FWIW. We had the sim at the end of the day and they said after the assessment to get a cab back to the hotel! So hopefully you get the sim in the morning so you are not out money as they provided transportation back to headquarters for them.
Day two only threat is the psychology test but
I warn you I'm an optimistic and adventurous person. I knew this already before taking the test. On day 3 was the group sessions psychology review and personal interviews. As standard practice you don't get feed back when you don't pass at the phone call at the end of the day, I did not make it. I felt good about the group session and personal interview so the only thing I can think of is the psychology test as my psychologist told me I'm a very optimistic person that is free spirited and that I tend to view rules as more as guidelines. She showed me their chart and I was in the middle on most things but to the extreme edge on those two items and I got the feeling that was not a good thing. She went on to say with my such happy positive attitude that some pilot crew members would have a hard time relating to me. I took the test with statement just be yourself.
I think the rules as guidelines put a red flag for them. What I failed to show is that my personal life is different than my professional life. For example I generally drive with the flow of traffic which is about 5 mph over the speed limit but I never fly faster than 250 knots below 10,000. I have heard from friends I have there already at emirates that they are looking for a certain type of pilot. And while they can't put their finger on it, I personally think they don't want someone that will be unhappy after being there for a couple of years. Maybe they saved me from becoming one of the many depressing commentators you see here on this forum. But it still unfortunate I didn't get the opportunity to make that decision myself it was taken away from me. On the way back home I talked to a flight attendant that said he failed his first time to interview with emirates too and on his second interview answered what they wanted to hear and passed. So take this information for what it's worth to you.
Best of luck cabair351 I hope this helps.
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Really sorry to hear you didn't make it through mate. All the best for where you go next.
Thank you very much for your help.
Thank you very much for your help.
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^^^^ Thanks. ^^^^
I had read through every single comment on the interview ek thread and although it took days to get through and you have to filter it. I did get some very valuable tips about the interview process from people that took time out of thier lives to help a fellow aviator for free. I am just returning the favor and "paying it forward". I also believe that failures are chances to learn and hopefully if my failure helps even one person avoid the mistake I made it was worth it.
I had read through every single comment on the interview ek thread and although it took days to get through and you have to filter it. I did get some very valuable tips about the interview process from people that took time out of thier lives to help a fellow aviator for free. I am just returning the favor and "paying it forward". I also believe that failures are chances to learn and hopefully if my failure helps even one person avoid the mistake I made it was worth it.
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Good info, thanks.
Couple of questions, as I have some friends interviewing soon.
Are they still doing the computer tests on day 1? If I remember correctly they were: ATPL/Maths/Hand-eye coordination/capacity/logic tests?
Also there were 3 group exercises on day 3. 2 generic ones and an aviation specific one. They still there?
Much appreciated.
Also, does anyone know if Elite Assessment is still in existence?
Couple of questions, as I have some friends interviewing soon.
Are they still doing the computer tests on day 1? If I remember correctly they were: ATPL/Maths/Hand-eye coordination/capacity/logic tests?
Also there were 3 group exercises on day 3. 2 generic ones and an aviation specific one. They still there?
Much appreciated.
Also, does anyone know if Elite Assessment is still in existence?
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Good info, thanks.
Couple of questions, as I have some friends interviewing soon.
Are they still doing the computer tests on day 1? If I remember correctly they were: ATPL/Maths/Hand-eye coordination/capacity/logic tests?
Yes - not as much weight put on these it seems. Better to study up on sim and tell me about a time when questions and group exercises as it seemed more emphasis are placed on these IMO of course.
Also there were 3 group exercises on day 3. 2 generic ones and an aviation specific one. They still there?
Yes - focus more on interacting with ur fellow interviews and formulating a plan together than on getting the right answer.
Much appreciated.
Also, does anyone know if Elite Assessment is still in existence?
Don't know.
Couple of questions, as I have some friends interviewing soon.
Are they still doing the computer tests on day 1? If I remember correctly they were: ATPL/Maths/Hand-eye coordination/capacity/logic tests?
Yes - not as much weight put on these it seems. Better to study up on sim and tell me about a time when questions and group exercises as it seemed more emphasis are placed on these IMO of course.
Also there were 3 group exercises on day 3. 2 generic ones and an aviation specific one. They still there?
Yes - focus more on interacting with ur fellow interviews and formulating a plan together than on getting the right answer.
Much appreciated.
Also, does anyone know if Elite Assessment is still in existence?
Don't know.
