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Old 1st Jan 2014, 08:28
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Don I know where the Pay and Allowances Manual (PAM), is located. It's located "There". In fact it's always been "There" just ask anyone on the office..... I don't know exactly where "There" is but I know for a fact that the PAM is "There" and it's not alone. It shares a shelf with the Rostering Rules and Regulations Manual (RRRM) thats always been "There" too.....
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Old 1st Jan 2014, 14:52
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And there's no call out at all if they take your day off to extend a trip you're already on.
If your down route, that is correct. If they change it before the trip starts, you don't have to accept. If you do... no money payed and no other off day given
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Old 1st Jan 2014, 15:00
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Had that happen on a couple of freighter trips. Departing later than rostered, day off just disappeared. When I asked I was told..yes we can do that....I don't bother asking any questions anymore.
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Old 1st Jan 2014, 15:06
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OK. Maybe I was just lucky then... Called in and was offered to be taken off the flight if I chose not to accept and put on Standby instead. Off day back on the roster...
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Old 1st Jan 2014, 15:42
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Maths 101 for Pilots...

If you take the basic salary of a first year captain (around 37000DHS) for 12 months divided by 900 hours... you get about about 500DHS per hours. When they ask you to work on a day off you get 1) 600DHS call 2) Nothing for every hours you do below 92 hours. 3) 600DHS overtime per hour (wow 100DHS bonus...and less than normal pay for senior Captains.) 4) flight pay. The company tries to pay no overtime. They will offer you to work on your days off probably because you are below overtime threshold. So you work for 100 DHS/hours more than usually if you go in overtime. But below 92 you work for nothing ( 600 + flights hours divided by hours ) When i see guys offering 2000DHS for my day OFF and I do a LHR for example I laugh. It should be( 600DHS + 14:30 hours X 500 DHS)= 7850DHS. Why should i work for less money when i do more work?

Basically productivity wise you work for less money on your days OFF and a big 100 DHSHour for junior Captain and less money for senior pilot. If top is 58000DHSX12/900=773DHS per hours. Why work for less on your days OFF????
Pilots and money... no way! And everybody knows...

Keep on flying on your days OFF for peanuts...
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Old 1st Jan 2014, 16:02
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.... and keep in mind that they will try to get you work on a day off as long as you are below 92h, just to take away a flight from a guy who was over that threshold, even if it was his top-bidded last goodie-flight of the month!

They pay less in total (remember cost-neutral?) and you cheat a buddy out of a goodie.

Imagine this happening to you .... so better think twice.
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