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Old 1st December 2013 | 19:05
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Old 1st December 2013 | 19:19
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Turkish had way too many crashes the last 15 years, most of them in turkey tho
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Old 2nd December 2013 | 08:14
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What was the year/day of the Turkish? Any idea? Sam
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Old 2nd December 2013 | 08:28
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Actually that video shows an unstable approach outside the touchdown zone which should have led to a go around. Ignorance?
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Old 2nd December 2013 | 08:28
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I think its a good video man, thanks for sharing
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Old 2nd December 2013 | 10:08
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Turkish tailstrike

Vfnext, I can see theTDZ markings. What are you talking about?
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Old 2nd December 2013 | 10:30
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As far as I can see on this video that's no tailstrike at all. They bounced on first touchdown, lost airspeed on the bounce, hence the high pitch and almost having a tailstrike, which lead to a balked / rejected landing.

There is a tendency for pilots to keep increasing pitch in these situations to "save" a hard touchdown. A go around / rejected landing (call it what you want) is often the safest solution though.

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Old 2nd December 2013 | 10:44
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The post I was talking about was deleted. Conveniently! However it showed a Monarch unstable approach.
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Old 2nd December 2013 | 14:46
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Excellent video !
Turkish masters at their best 😱according to reliably sources its on the increase across the whole fleets due to lack of training experience and disciplines, especally on the 900.
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I am sure an ASR will not be found if reported as with more interesting events.
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Old 2nd December 2013 | 17:22
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Looks to me like he pressed the go around button after the first bounce, then the a/c sank onto the runway again before engines spooled up, resultant power pitch coupled with a pilot pitch demand, pitched the nose up and the tail bumper (not tailwheel!) touched. Not a drastic problem, depends upon how hard the tail bumper touched, would be checked by engineering staff.
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Old 2nd December 2013 | 17:41
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Couldn't have pressed TOGA after the first bounce as the spoilers deployed on the second touch down which also exacerbated the pitch up.
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Old 3rd December 2013 | 05:51
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Turkish tailstrike

I think you mean could have pressed toga but nothing would have happened??
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Old 3rd December 2013 | 15:29
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Nope......
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Old 3rd December 2013 | 16:34
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Question from a mere occasional spamcan-flyer (apart from the armchair stuff): was the bounce really that bad as to necessitate a go-around? To my layman's eyes it appears that just keeping the pitch attitude constant and letting the airplane settle on the runway after the first bounce would have been a non-event.
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Old 3rd December 2013 | 17:04
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Question from a mere occasional spamcan-flyer (apart from the armchair stuff): was the bounce really that bad as to necessitate a go-around? To my layman's eyes it appears that just keeping the pitch attitude constant and letting the airplane settle on the runway after the first bounce would have been a non-event.
Decision probably best left to the PF's instinct in the very short frame of time. But you are right that a bounce doesn't necessarily mean you have to go around. The FCTM, an advisory document on flying technique, suggests both methods favoring a go-around if the bounce is particularly bad. Just be aware of the pitch up tendency and don't rotate too fast.
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Old 3rd December 2013 | 17:10
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and another recent mishap in Lagos
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Old 5th December 2013 | 16:50
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Yanbancy, you beat me to it!
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