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Old 29th May 2013, 06:57
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Saudi - USA Open Skies

KSA and the USA have signed an Open Skies agreement therefore removing restrictions on the number of flights that can operate between these two countries.

I don't foresee too many US carriers jumping at this opportunity, but i wonder how long it will be before there is a Qatar base in Jeddah and Riyadh operating to the US? What about EK and EY?

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Why not Saudia??
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Would an Open Skies agreement between the United States and Saudi Arabia allow for 5th Freedom or 8th Freedom rights to non-US or non-Saudi flag carriers???

Would be interesting to read but I'd be surprised.
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8th freedom is the right to fly between two airports in the same country (i.e domestic) with continuing service to/from the airlines home country. In this example only US/Saudi airlines could benefit and it is likely that it would only be grated on a reciprocal basis. Since the Americans would never do this, it is not likely the Saudis would give domestic rights to US airlines without a quid pro quo.

The US-Saudi agreement could grant 5ths for US/Saudi airlines. For 5ths for other flags that would depend on both countries granting same in their ASAs with said nation.

For example - If the UAE negotiated 5ths from both the Saudis and the Americans they could operate DUB/AUH - JED - JFK (with traffic rights).

In principle ASAs address traffic rights only for the airlines of the two countries.

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