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Old 10th May 2012, 12:58
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EK Pay Review

Pay review is in your inbox.

3% increment and....

.....nothing.

Strikes me as a little mean. Profits are down but the cost of living in Dubai isn't. In real terms this is very much a pay cut.
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Old 10th May 2012, 13:02
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To be accurate, you will receive 3% if you are not already at the top of the scale. If you have reached the top there is no increase.

Does anyone know where the scale is printed, or could anyone say what the top is? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
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Old 10th May 2012, 13:43
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Not sure where it's printed but step 30 is the top.
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Old 10th May 2012, 14:42
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Drop the pay scale was posted last year in the EK private forum a search there may turn it up. If you cant find it PM me as I may still have a copy.
Perhaps its time to get rid of the rotating bid groups and go to date of joining for rosters/leave etc. Its seems the fellas that have been here the longest are being ripped off money wise by the company, so perhaps its time to give them quality of life?

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Old 10th May 2012, 14:44
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don- how are the longer term guys being ripped off? Every company has and end to their 'scale' so I don't see how EK should be different. I'm not trying to be difficult, just realistic. What should be happening is that those scales increase with inflation---in that regard the senior guys are losing!
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Pay scale is back in EK forum if anyone wants to take a look.

Trader when was the last time a new step was added to the pay scale? Doesn't seem very fair that we get 3% and they get nothing.

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Old 10th May 2012, 15:09
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Am I missing the bleeding obvious but is this 3% going to be added to the next step? Or is a case of wait for the CA letter?
Comprehension never was my strong suit.
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You are now crying FAIR? How long have you worked at EK. You should know they are rarely fair, witnes the Bonus this year.
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Old 10th May 2012, 15:52
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A few years more than you AC. Bonus smoanus, they set a target just above the moon and you are surprised we don't get a bonus?
Falcon add 3% to your basic and thats the next step. Use to be a automatic thing getting the step. Now it seems TCAS think otherwise it would appear. To be clear, there is no pay rise, just the step.

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Old 10th May 2012, 16:32
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It would seem since the 777 pilots are flying so much making up for down time for the 380 the Boeing pilots should get about 4 weeks bonus from the Airbus pilots.
The 380 guys are flying 4-8 days a month and we are busting our arse at 95 hours and the Boeing pilots dont get anything for it. Before all you limp d%&ks say anything you can shove that 60 dhs flt pay where the sun don't shine.
Talk about unfair Don. Never mind we are dealing with Arab mentally.
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Old 10th May 2012, 17:17
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90+ hrs long haul is easier than 65hrs in the 330. At least you get to spend some 5hrs plus in the bunk! Try 3 TRV, HYD and MAA in a row at 2am.
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Old 10th May 2012, 17:33
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Boo Hoo Swan Man cry me a river....

"I'm working hard wah wah wah"
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Old 10th May 2012, 17:47
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And all the other world airlines are giving how much pay increase to their pilots?

Those that are still in business that is..
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Old 10th May 2012, 18:16
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The response from the EK pilot group does not surprise me in the slightest. No wonder we are in the position we are in.
Other airlines do not have slave labor and most pilots do not live in a city with inflation. How far are we behind from last year and the airline MADE $630 MILLION!
The yield on that is somewhere near 3.7%. That is huge and the biggest reason for that is the very high hourly utiliziation of the Boeing pilots.
65 hours for the main Airbus fleet? 4-8 days working for the crack pilots? Limp Rider is just happy to have a job though. Give him a 40% pay cut and he still makes more at EK than he did at his last shite airline.
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Old 10th May 2012, 18:29
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Calm down Swan man. That's 4 to 8 days work each and every month the 380 dudes are doing. It all adds up after a while.
Its good those Boeing chaps are helping them out.

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Originally Posted by swan man
biggest reason for that is the very high hourly utiliziation of the Boeing pilots
And I recall a few years ago that the 340 guys were doing the massive hours and the John Deere types were sitting on their backsides. Swings and roundabouts and all that... Grow up and stop sobbing
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Swanie,
I am doing 95 hrs on the big bus before pressing 2, 10 days OFF and believe me all the flights suck, the good ones go to the management boys, then the trainers and the left overs go to the line pigs.

PS: it also helps if you come from a tiny island in the Mediterranean just north of Lybia
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Old 11th May 2012, 06:30
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No wonder we as Emirates pilots are the laughing stock to the good airlines of the world.
We will never achieve Industry Standard pay and conditions with attitudes like the ones posted above.
13% operating costs, no wonder we made so much money. Kind of refelects on us doesn't it.
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Old 11th May 2012, 12:43
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come on

Come on guys..you are helping the Sheik repaying its 109 billion dollars debts. Net worth of Dubai is negative ..keep it in mind for the future.
The world id turning page, greedy ,unregulated, globalized capitalism is at the end...Dubai outlook never been grimmer.
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Old 11th May 2012, 13:07
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Swan Man, I agree with the sentiment of your post but the 13% operating cost does not include the pilot group.
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