EK Pay Review
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EK Pay Review
Pay review is in your inbox.
3% increment and....
.....nothing.
Strikes me as a little mean. Profits are down but the cost of living in Dubai isn't. In real terms this is very much a pay cut.
3% increment and....
.....nothing.
Strikes me as a little mean. Profits are down but the cost of living in Dubai isn't. In real terms this is very much a pay cut.
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From: the ridge where the west commences
To be accurate, you will receive 3% if you are not already at the top of the scale. If you have reached the top there is no increase.
Does anyone know where the scale is printed, or could anyone say what the top is? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Does anyone know where the scale is printed, or could anyone say what the top is? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
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From: overthere
Drop the pay scale was posted last year in the EK private forum a search there may turn it up. If you cant find it PM me as I may still have a copy.
Perhaps its time to get rid of the rotating bid groups and go to date of joining for rosters/leave etc. Its seems the fellas that have been here the longest are being ripped off money wise by the company, so perhaps its time to give them quality of life?
The Don
Perhaps its time to get rid of the rotating bid groups and go to date of joining for rosters/leave etc. Its seems the fellas that have been here the longest are being ripped off money wise by the company, so perhaps its time to give them quality of life?
The Don
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From: South of North
don- how are the longer term guys being ripped off? Every company has and end to their 'scale' so I don't see how EK should be different. I'm not trying to be difficult, just realistic. What should be happening is that those scales increase with inflation---in that regard the senior guys are losing!
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From: overthere
A few years more than you AC. Bonus smoanus, they set a target just above the moon and you are surprised we don't get a bonus?
Falcon add 3% to your basic and thats the next step. Use to be a automatic thing getting the step. Now it seems TCAS think otherwise it would appear. To be clear, there is no pay rise, just the step.
The Don
Falcon add 3% to your basic and thats the next step. Use to be a automatic thing getting the step. Now it seems TCAS think otherwise it would appear. To be clear, there is no pay rise, just the step.
The Don
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It would seem since the 777 pilots are flying so much making up for down time for the 380 the Boeing pilots should get about 4 weeks bonus from the Airbus pilots.
The 380 guys are flying 4-8 days a month and we are busting our arse at 95 hours and the Boeing pilots dont get anything for it. Before all you limp d%&ks say anything you can shove that 60 dhs flt pay where the sun don't shine.
Talk about unfair Don. Never mind we are dealing with Arab mentally.
The 380 guys are flying 4-8 days a month and we are busting our arse at 95 hours and the Boeing pilots dont get anything for it. Before all you limp d%&ks say anything you can shove that 60 dhs flt pay where the sun don't shine.
Talk about unfair Don. Never mind we are dealing with Arab mentally.
cry me a river....
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The response from the EK pilot group does not surprise me in the slightest. No wonder we are in the position we are in.
Other airlines do not have slave labor and most pilots do not live in a city with inflation. How far are we behind from last year and the airline MADE $630 MILLION!
The yield on that is somewhere near 3.7%. That is huge and the biggest reason for that is the very high hourly utiliziation of the Boeing pilots.
65 hours for the main Airbus fleet? 4-8 days working for the crack pilots? Limp Rider is just happy to have a job though. Give him a 40% pay cut and he still makes more at EK than he did at his last !!!!e airline.
Other airlines do not have slave labor and most pilots do not live in a city with inflation. How far are we behind from last year and the airline MADE $630 MILLION!
The yield on that is somewhere near 3.7%. That is huge and the biggest reason for that is the very high hourly utiliziation of the Boeing pilots.
65 hours for the main Airbus fleet? 4-8 days working for the crack pilots? Limp Rider is just happy to have a job though. Give him a 40% pay cut and he still makes more at EK than he did at his last !!!!e airline.
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From: Dubai - sand land.
Originally Posted by swan man
biggest reason for that is the very high hourly utiliziation of the Boeing pilots
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Swanie,
I am doing 95 hrs on the big bus before pressing 2, 10 days OFF and believe me all the flights suck, the good ones go to the management boys, then the trainers and the left overs go to the line pigs.
PS: it also helps if you come from a tiny island in the Mediterranean just north of Lybia
I am doing 95 hrs on the big bus before pressing 2, 10 days OFF and believe me all the flights suck, the good ones go to the management boys, then the trainers and the left overs go to the line pigs.
PS: it also helps if you come from a tiny island in the Mediterranean just north of Lybia
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No wonder we as Emirates pilots are the laughing stock to the good airlines of the world.
We will never achieve Industry Standard pay and conditions with attitudes like the ones posted above.
13% operating costs, no wonder we made so much money. Kind of refelects on us doesn't it.
We will never achieve Industry Standard pay and conditions with attitudes like the ones posted above.
13% operating costs, no wonder we made so much money. Kind of refelects on us doesn't it.
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From: hearth
come on
Come on guys..you are helping the Sheik repaying its 109 billion dollars debts. Net worth of Dubai is negative ..keep it in mind for the future.
The world id turning page, greedy ,unregulated, globalized capitalism is at the end...Dubai outlook never been grimmer.
The world id turning page, greedy ,unregulated, globalized capitalism is at the end...Dubai outlook never been grimmer.