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I'm making the assumption that the posters here are male with female partners:
Having a child with your girlfriend in your home country without any commitment is one thing but you now seem to expect her to move half way around the world with that child, away from her friends and family, and you are still trying to avoid giving her any kind of security.
If your girlfriend is prepared to do that she is a better woman than you deserve.
Having a child with your girlfriend in your home country without any commitment is one thing but you now seem to expect her to move half way around the world with that child, away from her friends and family, and you are still trying to avoid giving her any kind of security.
If your girlfriend is prepared to do that she is a better woman than you deserve.
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Thank you for the reply!! any clue if i can purchase discounted tickets for friends?
Guys... really... aren't you being a little judgmental?! One foot out the door, afraid of commitment... really? Lets not bash the man we dont know. Because you believe in the institution of marriage doesn't mean he does. And lets not even get in to the staggering statistics of the divorce rate...
Get married when you want to, when it feels right. And for all of the people that tell you that your otherwise ask them to reference the extremely pleasant divorce rate. Be faithful to your family, and committed to your relationship and as the foLks in MIA say ... FORGET THE HATTERS
Guys... really... aren't you being a little judgmental?! One foot out the door, afraid of commitment... really? Lets not bash the man we dont know. Because you believe in the institution of marriage doesn't mean he does. And lets not even get in to the staggering statistics of the divorce rate...
Get married when you want to, when it feels right. And for all of the people that tell you that your otherwise ask them to reference the extremely pleasant divorce rate. Be faithful to your family, and committed to your relationship and as the foLks in MIA say ... FORGET THE HATTERS
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Visas and marriage
I purchased a visa for my mother in law yesterday. Cost was 710 dhs for a 30 day visa and 1000 dhs refundable "deposit", which was changed at the very last moment to 2000 dhs as I could not prove that that particular mother in law was MY mother in law as her passport does not have the same surname as my wife (Duh!). There is also a 20 dhs "handling fee" to cover the cost of giving the cash to the guy on the other side of the desk. Tried to get a shorter visa (2 or 3 days) but no luck 
. Opted for 418's instead.
Odd thing is that the 30 day "short stay" visa is valid for 60 days from date of issue, so if she plans to stay for 30 days she must enter the country within 30 days of the issuance of the visa. Like many legal issues here, it's very murky territory.
Marriage is a given. You MUST be married to live together and have the benifits provided as all the other posters have said. I married my partner 10 years to the day after meeting her as there was really no need to marry in our home country. That being said, it was 4 days before joining EK that we wed. We have been lucky. Married life has not been life changing for us.
However, torrid affairs that include a marriage proposal because the groom (or bride) just got the EK job have often ended in tatters soon after arrival in DXB. It's a stressful series of events to get settled here, and it takes a while. Change of job, residence, marital status, surrounding culture(s), plus assorted temptations downline, etc, can add up to another change: One day you wake up and you have no idea who is in bed with you. Although you're married to her, you suddenly share nothing in common.
This stress applied is insidious but can be monitored using this scale: The Holmes and Rahe Stress Scale - Stress Management from MindTools.com
This is a very good tool to follow your own progress and see if you are apt to become over-stressed. Try to avoid the obvious biggies. Figure out how to manage the others. Life has it's own piece of Swiss cheese.
To summarize, weak relationships, both old and new, do not survive. Visas cost money and are an inconvenient truth. Complaining solves nothing and may well aggrevate the situation. If you want to live and work in DXB you must simply accept how things work here, or you'll go stark raving mad.
. Opted for 418's instead. Odd thing is that the 30 day "short stay" visa is valid for 60 days from date of issue, so if she plans to stay for 30 days she must enter the country within 30 days of the issuance of the visa. Like many legal issues here, it's very murky territory.
Marriage is a given. You MUST be married to live together and have the benifits provided as all the other posters have said. I married my partner 10 years to the day after meeting her as there was really no need to marry in our home country. That being said, it was 4 days before joining EK that we wed. We have been lucky. Married life has not been life changing for us.
However, torrid affairs that include a marriage proposal because the groom (or bride) just got the EK job have often ended in tatters soon after arrival in DXB. It's a stressful series of events to get settled here, and it takes a while. Change of job, residence, marital status, surrounding culture(s), plus assorted temptations downline, etc, can add up to another change: One day you wake up and you have no idea who is in bed with you. Although you're married to her, you suddenly share nothing in common.
This stress applied is insidious but can be monitored using this scale: The Holmes and Rahe Stress Scale - Stress Management from MindTools.com
This is a very good tool to follow your own progress and see if you are apt to become over-stressed. Try to avoid the obvious biggies. Figure out how to manage the others. Life has it's own piece of Swiss cheese.
To summarize, weak relationships, both old and new, do not survive. Visas cost money and are an inconvenient truth. Complaining solves nothing and may well aggrevate the situation. If you want to live and work in DXB you must simply accept how things work here, or you'll go stark raving mad.
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Possibly the most hypocritical regime in the world. I have nothing whatsoever against alcohol, sex, or prostitution, but the double standards that prevail in this hellhole nauseate me.
Welcome to the United Arab Emirates - a country with strict regulations, which translates into a low crime rate.
In situations other than the beach or swimming pool, a woman's clothing might be considered indecent if it is tight, transparent, above the knee or shows her stomach, shoulders or back.
The UAE (consisting of Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah, Ras al Kaimah, Fujairah, Ajman, and Umm al Quwain) is a Muslim country and its local laws reflect the fact that Islamic practices and beliefs are closely applied.
Some of the seven emirates are more strict than others: Sharjah and Ajman, for instance, strictly enforces Islamic law, while Dubai and Abu Dhabi - both with thriving, mainstream tourist industries - are more relaxed.
Here are some tips on how to avoid being arrested during a visit to the UAE:
THE MIDDLE FINGER: Swearing and making rude gestures are criminal acts in the UAE and may result in significant penalties.
KISSING: Public displays of affection, such as holding hands and kissing, are socially unacceptable. There have been arrests for public displays of affection.
BROKE: Bouncing cheques and non-payment of bills may result in imprisonment or fines.
UNDRESSED: In situations other than the beach or swimming pool, a woman's clothing might be considered indecent if it is tight, transparent, above the knee or shows her stomach, shoulders or back.
CHATTING UP WOMEN: It is illegal to harass women. This includes unwanted conversation, prolonged stares and glaring.
PHOTOS: Taking photographs of local people, particularly women, without permission and where there has been no previous contact is illegal and can lead to arrest or fines.
RAMADAN: During the holy month of Ramadan, non-Muslims are expected to refrain from eating, drinking and smoking in public in front of Muslims between sunrise and sunset.
SEX: Sex outside marriage is banned. Homosexual acts and prostitution are illegal and subject to severe punishment.
But their tourism induustry is based on prostitution, the international hotel bars are packed with hookers and their clients drinking alcohol which is against Islamic law. Planeloads of hookers arrive daily on 'holiday' visas.
DRINK DRIVING: It is illegal to have any alcohol in your blood when driving.
DRUGS: The UAE has a zero-tolerance policy towards drugs and penalties for drug trafficking include the death penalty or life in jail.
MEDICATION: Medication available over the counter or by prescription in Australia may be illegal or considered a controlled substance in the UAE. Check the status of the medication before bringing it into the country.
Even stuff like cough mixture, anti-inflammatories, and aspirin can cause problems
In situations other than the beach or swimming pool, a woman's clothing might be considered indecent if it is tight, transparent, above the knee or shows her stomach, shoulders or back.
The UAE (consisting of Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah, Ras al Kaimah, Fujairah, Ajman, and Umm al Quwain) is a Muslim country and its local laws reflect the fact that Islamic practices and beliefs are closely applied.
Some of the seven emirates are more strict than others: Sharjah and Ajman, for instance, strictly enforces Islamic law, while Dubai and Abu Dhabi - both with thriving, mainstream tourist industries - are more relaxed.
Here are some tips on how to avoid being arrested during a visit to the UAE:
THE MIDDLE FINGER: Swearing and making rude gestures are criminal acts in the UAE and may result in significant penalties.
KISSING: Public displays of affection, such as holding hands and kissing, are socially unacceptable. There have been arrests for public displays of affection.
BROKE: Bouncing cheques and non-payment of bills may result in imprisonment or fines.
UNDRESSED: In situations other than the beach or swimming pool, a woman's clothing might be considered indecent if it is tight, transparent, above the knee or shows her stomach, shoulders or back.
CHATTING UP WOMEN: It is illegal to harass women. This includes unwanted conversation, prolonged stares and glaring.
PHOTOS: Taking photographs of local people, particularly women, without permission and where there has been no previous contact is illegal and can lead to arrest or fines.
RAMADAN: During the holy month of Ramadan, non-Muslims are expected to refrain from eating, drinking and smoking in public in front of Muslims between sunrise and sunset.
SEX: Sex outside marriage is banned. Homosexual acts and prostitution are illegal and subject to severe punishment.
But their tourism induustry is based on prostitution, the international hotel bars are packed with hookers and their clients drinking alcohol which is against Islamic law. Planeloads of hookers arrive daily on 'holiday' visas.
DRINK DRIVING: It is illegal to have any alcohol in your blood when driving.
DRUGS: The UAE has a zero-tolerance policy towards drugs and penalties for drug trafficking include the death penalty or life in jail.
MEDICATION: Medication available over the counter or by prescription in Australia may be illegal or considered a controlled substance in the UAE. Check the status of the medication before bringing it into the country.
Even stuff like cough mixture, anti-inflammatories, and aspirin can cause problems
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Any one else see the funny side of having to undergo a largely Christian ritual (marriage) in order to live in a Muslim society.? Monkey boy, do the interview, tell them your engaged or what ever you want to tell them,recruiting understand,then if you get the gig visit the registry officer. Ignore those wankers offering their moral judgement, come on over.
Guys,
do you see any problems moving down there married but with child having different surname?
do you see any problems moving down there married but with child having different surname?
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Even co-habitation wint a person of the opposite sex may subject one to penalties in the unlikely event it becomes known to authorities..
Won't be a problem- Surnames are actually less important here- My UAE drivers licence only has my first and middle name on it, and Wives don't take the surname of their husbands.
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You don't even need certificate or proof of adoption. All you need is a court declaration stating you and your spouse are the primary care givers of the child and have assumed all financial and medical responsibility for the child. Depending on your country, you'd have to get a letter of no objection from the biological, but as far as EK is concerned, the child does not have to be adopted by you, but you have to be the primary caretaker, attested by a court, for them to be issued a family visa
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It is the islamic way. You can adopt a kid, but you don't change his family name, because he has the right to retain his previous history. They are used to adopted childs with different name (I think that it is called kafala).
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Just to add my own spoon to this soup...
Me and the mother of my children are not married, and if I get through the Dubai part of the selection and get recruited I will most propably move to Dubai without my family. Does EK still consider my kids as "my kids" (they do have the same family name that I do) or do I have to bring along some DNA test results to get EK family benefits for them as well even though they'd live in their home country?
Me and the mother of my children are not married, and if I get through the Dubai part of the selection and get recruited I will most propably move to Dubai without my family. Does EK still consider my kids as "my kids" (they do have the same family name that I do) or do I have to bring along some DNA test results to get EK family benefits for them as well even though they'd live in their home country?
