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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 12:56
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Emirates pay rise

Anyone going to start a Emirates pay rise rumor? The profit share is one thing but it applies to all employees, the pay review sends out a message to potential EK pilots and whether the management have a true understanding of the looming recruitment crisis, or not

My bet 6 % and 10% on flight pay
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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 13:55
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not a bad guess, but won't solve the problem, especially for new joining F/O's package. What ever they give us, it will be the least they think they can get away with
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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 16:35
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10% flight pay????? 6%??????

Hi drop,

I hope management will not read your post because it would be a joke.......

6% payrise means no payrise and 10% on the flight pay would offensive!!!!!

They have to come out with something a lot more interesting........

And in the mean time the holding pool is empty..........completely empty........
150 invited for may and after that................the emptiness
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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 16:44
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6 and 10 is not a pay rise... That would almost take us back to what we lost during that disastrous financial year when Emirates almost failed, where we all had to "share the pain". You remember the year...the one when EK made a record profit...
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Old 23rd Apr 2011, 21:27
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9% gets back what they took from us and 20% at least to flt pay
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They should restore the "missing" annual increment from when the pain was being shared (excellent post Jebus) plus a realistic increment for inflation. I don't know what the official figure for inflation is but it appears to be getting out of control again and I know my basket of groceries in Spinneys costs a lot more than last year.
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Old 24th Apr 2011, 08:37
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EK dentist reckons 20% is in line for us, with 8 weeks bonus - me thinks not!

7% plus the increment and 10% on the hourly rate, with an overtime kick in of 96hrs on a 31 day month and 1000hrs annually due to lack of available new recruits.

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I think that dentist should stay off the laughing gas!!
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Good one, DK!
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Old 24th Apr 2011, 22:18
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EY

Just my 2% but I envy you.
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Old 25th Apr 2011, 09:57
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At Flydubai , after more than 2 years some of us finally got a pay increase of 4,8% on the basic which is around 2,2% ich on the total....

We would be more than happy with 6% on basic and 10% on sector pay...

I know we are low cost and only flying B737 but still....
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You reap what you sow.......
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Old 25th Apr 2011, 14:35
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Talking

Seems the UAE has blocked this thread but no problem I used the VPN.........again! Whats wrong with these people?
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Seems the UAE has blocked this thread but no problem I used the VPN.........again! Whats wrong with these people?
No, they haven't. Reading it now on Etisalat, no VPN.

I see you are one of those who will immediately jump on a stereotype explanation every time you have a computer glitch.

What's WRONG with YOU?
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Old 26th Apr 2011, 12:09
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Dubaigong, that's where you sell yourself short. You get a crappy pay adjustment and then start thinking another carrier's slightly less crappy one is good. It's not, for you or me, aim higher man.
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Old 26th Apr 2011, 12:54
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Praise Jebus,

Fine let's aim higher...

I guess that you are more experienced than me here ( I mean in the UAE )
So please feel free to explain to me HOW I could aim higher in a country where union is banned ?

All I have learned since I am here is that you are on your own ; Even worse than in low cost companies ( at least in Europe ) where there is no union BUT where , at least , you are a little bit protected by the law and the government because laws there are designed to protect the weakest ( the workers ) and not the strongest ( the employers ).

Here , a fellow pilot dared to go to express his disagreement to the top management and he has been told that he could be fired right away...

So give us the solution , apart from leaving the country I don't see any and I am not the only one if I look at the reaction of the other pilots of the company...
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Old 26th Apr 2011, 13:33
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Just for comparison purposes, the 4 carriers in the US, that operate the 777, Captain pay rates are approximately: $190, $193, $205 and $217 per block hour
EK will likely be more profitable than all 4 of the above mentioned US carriers combined
Don't you think you just gave yourself the answer to your question?
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Old 26th Apr 2011, 13:56
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Shame about those underpaid US pilots at $200 an hour

I just took my gross payable from EK and divided it by 83 and come up with $285 dollars per hour. Admittedly, I have been here some time and have a modicum of "appointment pay" but that caveat can by biased by the fact that I have not included the value of my free loss of license insurance, my (almost) free medical insurance, my free life insurance and my children's school fees. I don't pay any tax on my pay, so drag out your Casio and see what gross income you would need in the US to net that amount.

I suspect the lesson here is (as I have suggested before):

-shut up
-do your job to the best of your abilities
-remain with a company and show some loyalty
-don't expect to be paid $50,000 a month just because you can pass a PPC

In your case, my personal recommendation would be to go with suggestion number one.
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Old 26th Apr 2011, 15:26
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Please tell me Dropp..what kind of drug do you use?
So you are making 24000 dollar a month?
Come on habibi...I know to survive we all have to embellish the truth at times but this is plain bull****. Your salary is more or less 36000 dhs ( 10000 USD) a month + flight pay and you fly 92 hours as a minimum. So just stop telling bull**** and quit smoking whatever you are smoking mate . You are not even making making 285 dirhams per hour.. face it!
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Old 26th Apr 2011, 16:42
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Sheik,

He mentioned appointment pay so I assume he's in training, .

If you want to bitch, go ahead- just TRY and get you facts KIND of straight....

10th year basic is 47000 , not 36000- SLIGHT difference.

TRI, 7400

Housing 14 000

Flight pay, 5000 odd.

Total 73000- just a little more than 285/hr.
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