Middle East Unrest !!!
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One more reason to keep them out of there, including the US. Having NATO involved in this mess will not help. The scoundrels and syncophants like Sarkozy, Berlusconi profited enough from the corrupt regime.
I think this is eventually a problem of the Libyan people to get rid of that SOB, and I really hope they do.
I think this is eventually a problem of the Libyan people to get rid of that SOB, and I really hope they do.
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If (huge 'if') the Arab league got their air assets into place in time (another huge 'if') to have any effect, it would be interesting in the extreme to see them operate all that cool Western kit they (only ocassionally) fly.
Basil bin Fawlthy (Towers) versus Baldrick abu Blackadder would not be too far off the mark I think.
As others ahve said before me, since nothing but talk has been done to now, it's all but over for the rebels - un less a stray cruiise missile (deniable?) were to find its way into the rigfht compound in Tripoli and the right time.
If that little miracle were to occur, it would be a whole new ball game - which in my opinion, despite all their pious pontifications to the contrary, I really don't think any of the European political leadership want. A potentially radical Islamic republic immediately under Italy? They'd prefer Gaddafi with every wart in place to that.
The only winners out of this sorry situation will be Al Qaeda and the shadowy men who run the boats carrying refugees to Malta and Italy.
Basil bin Fawlthy (Towers) versus Baldrick abu Blackadder would not be too far off the mark I think.
As others ahve said before me, since nothing but talk has been done to now, it's all but over for the rebels - un less a stray cruiise missile (deniable?) were to find its way into the rigfht compound in Tripoli and the right time.
If that little miracle were to occur, it would be a whole new ball game - which in my opinion, despite all their pious pontifications to the contrary, I really don't think any of the European political leadership want. A potentially radical Islamic republic immediately under Italy? They'd prefer Gaddafi with every wart in place to that.
The only winners out of this sorry situation will be Al Qaeda and the shadowy men who run the boats carrying refugees to Malta and Italy.
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State of emergency declared in BAH
BBC News - Bahrain king declares state of emergency after protests
BBC News - Bahrain king declares state of emergency after protests
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Bahrain is probably trending to a sectarian conflict . Looks like there is a lack of educated folks in the leadership. They had so many opportunities to end this diplomatically. The usual hard headedness of the ME prevails.
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What happened to this place? They are kiling in Bahrain! If I was there I think I would leave on the next plane. Is it still possible to even work for Gulf Air? I heard the load factors are way down. I mean seriously even as a passenger I would not fly with them!
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I think it is hardly appropriate to talk of democracy and the problems in the Arab world after the examples of the so call "Western Democracies"
Didn't America and the UK destroy Iraq on the pretence of WMD (their own intelligence having proved there were none) to help themselves to the oil there? Wasn't the company awarded the most lucrative contracts that on whose board the US Vice President sat? Didn't they kill thousands of civilians as "co-lateral damage" and trigger a civil war?
These sound suspiciously like the actions of war criminals to me.
Wasn't the whole financial collapse that has put millions below the poverty line because the Treasury Secretary, Chairman of the Fed, Head of the SEC etc. all worked for or took money from companies like Goldman Sachs who benefited hugely from the whole debacle?
This bunch sound a lot like plain thieves and fraudsters.
No one has been prosecuted or gone to jail. Their own people have not kicked them out because they cannot. The banks and mega corporations ensure they remain there.
This does not sound like democracy to me.
Let us not critisise too harshly the Arab world when the West is run by murderers, cheats and thieves.
Didn't America and the UK destroy Iraq on the pretence of WMD (their own intelligence having proved there were none) to help themselves to the oil there? Wasn't the company awarded the most lucrative contracts that on whose board the US Vice President sat? Didn't they kill thousands of civilians as "co-lateral damage" and trigger a civil war?
These sound suspiciously like the actions of war criminals to me.
Wasn't the whole financial collapse that has put millions below the poverty line because the Treasury Secretary, Chairman of the Fed, Head of the SEC etc. all worked for or took money from companies like Goldman Sachs who benefited hugely from the whole debacle?
This bunch sound a lot like plain thieves and fraudsters.
No one has been prosecuted or gone to jail. Their own people have not kicked them out because they cannot. The banks and mega corporations ensure they remain there.
This does not sound like democracy to me.
Let us not critisise too harshly the Arab world when the West is run by murderers, cheats and thieves.
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You are right
Murderers, war criminals and thieves run the Western governments as well. Iraq was just the beginning and it spun out of control with all its puppets, kings, dictators and other CIA stooges and sycophants in the wake. What will happen if the Japanese want to cash in those toxic US bonds? What will happen to the US Dollar and the currencies in the Middle East?
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DoD offers to move families in Bahrain
Well, someone has an evacuation plan in place
Note the link below is not an official DOD website
DoD offers to move families in Bahrain - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times
The Defense Department authorized a voluntary relocation program on Tuesday, in which families of military and DoD civilians assigned to Bahrain could be flown, at government expense, back to destinations of their choice in the U.S. and would receive per diem allowances. Military and “emergency essential” civilians, however, will stay until their projected rotation dates, according to the FAQ sheet posted on the 5th Fleet website.
DoD offers to move families in Bahrain - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times
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time to go, chaps
Daily Telegraph Thu 17 MArch
The fan has been hit.
The Government has advised all Britons to leave Bahrain immediately and will send charter planes to evacuate them from the country after tanks rolled into the capital.
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Can't speak for London or Paris, but the APV's would be a good idea in most inner cities USA, well at least they are a LITTLE bit more difficult to carjack
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This is getting really ugly! Local news now showing an unarmed demonstrator in BAH getting shot at point blank range by uniformed forces!
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that video is kid stuff , here is one better
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Do7vZEryzsEo
(note you will have to log in to youtube.com to watch that video : description of said video if you are not planning on losing your lunch --- imagine cracked melon with the insides of the melon missing )
more relevant to this forum Eurocontrol: Libya shuts airspace to all traffic
SO, whos flying in to Libya currently and who enforces this one? these guys ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Do7vZEryzsEo
(note you will have to log in to youtube.com to watch that video : description of said video if you are not planning on losing your lunch --- imagine cracked melon with the insides of the melon missing )
more relevant to this forum Eurocontrol: Libya shuts airspace to all traffic
SO, whos flying in to Libya currently and who enforces this one? these guys ?
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41 killed and more than 100 wounded in Yemen. The government there declares a state of emergency.
A link to Israeli news sources is not likely to be available to our colleagues in the ME, Roadrunner.
A link to Israeli news sources is not likely to be available to our colleagues in the ME, Roadrunner.