15,000 $US a month or Emirates?
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Hi!
China is getting more and more desperate for pilots. I would seriously consider switching companies in China before going to EK. I would think another company in China would be THRILLED to have you, if your current company is crap.
cliff
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China is getting more and more desperate for pilots. I would seriously consider switching companies in China before going to EK. I would think another company in China would be THRILLED to have you, if your current company is crap.
cliff
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Can't understand why anyone would want to discredit you Wiz, your views on EK are so impartial and balanced. Maybe you should send WTF a threatening pm.
Aren't you needed back at the office?
(Best new term from another post, gonna use it, "Oztranauts") They will Save Us All, these brave gents who invented aviation....
Back on topic, my advice to the OP is simply...you're jumping from the old frying pan into the fire if you think you'll have any more certainty about wtf is going on at EK versus a Chinese carrier. I would reiterate Laker's comments about China, you'll have more leverage there than just about anywhere else in the near term...
Aren't you needed back at the office?
(Best new term from another post, gonna use it, "Oztranauts") They will Save Us All, these brave gents who invented aviation....
Back on topic, my advice to the OP is simply...you're jumping from the old frying pan into the fire if you think you'll have any more certainty about wtf is going on at EK versus a Chinese carrier. I would reiterate Laker's comments about China, you'll have more leverage there than just about anywhere else in the near term...
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
China is getting more and more desperate for pilots. I would seriously consider switching companies in China before going to EK.
That said, things in China look a lot better long term than Dubai. I'd make it work over there if I possibly could.
CAVEAT : I've never worked for a Chinese or ME company, but I've worked overseas for years and have traveled to both places many times.
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about China, you'll have more leverage there than just about anywhere else in the near term
I think we all have a case of "grass is greener"
But consider this. Every day, engineers cutting corners, some places we fly is all Chinese language. The first officer does the radios and then passes on the ATC clearance. What was that game again? "Chinese whispers" where the information get less accurate each time. Also consider that any Hard landing (even by F/O and they cant fly) results in being fined $1000 usd from the CAPTAIN's pay cheque. Then going back on a training salary while you are retrained how to take over from the First officer. 20 days annual leave. No real benifits. 20 hour duty periods. Pollution. People spitting on the floor in the restaurant next to you. Pushing shoving, no manners. China can have it all. 15,000 a month aint enough.
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DD,
Seems like you've already made up your mind.
EK does have it's good points, no argument there, but it does have it bad sides too. It's very subjective. I've been at EK since 2003 and I have seen many changes, very few for the better. Having said that, I still like my job and my family is happy. In general, the people I work with on a daily basis are a great bunch.
As far as the company goes, I was proud when I joined. Now, I consider myself just a mercenary. The company might be doing great, but I have no respect for it anymore thanks to the management and the way they treat their own people.
A bit sad maybe, but I can live with it. Remember the grass is always greener....
What about contract jobs in China with basing? I know some EK skippers are looking at Air China with a base in Europe. Do you have some info on that?
Regards,
VLS
Seems like you've already made up your mind.
EK does have it's good points, no argument there, but it does have it bad sides too. It's very subjective. I've been at EK since 2003 and I have seen many changes, very few for the better. Having said that, I still like my job and my family is happy. In general, the people I work with on a daily basis are a great bunch.
As far as the company goes, I was proud when I joined. Now, I consider myself just a mercenary. The company might be doing great, but I have no respect for it anymore thanks to the management and the way they treat their own people.
A bit sad maybe, but I can live with it. Remember the grass is always greener....
What about contract jobs in China with basing? I know some EK skippers are looking at Air China with a base in Europe. Do you have some info on that?
Regards,
VLS
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Am I the only one who thinks this guy is fake?
Reread all of his posts. EK is GREAT, there have been cuts world wide, we are lucky to be here, I've read the complaints about Emirates but you should try working over here
, China (one of EK's major competitors in terms of attracting pilots in the future) is garbage, EK is the best...
I'm guessing this probationary user is just some propaganda spitting, Costa sipping, Brooks Brothers wearing, yes man from HQ. Tasked with getting on this forum and trying to put a positive spin on life in Dubai for the sake of future recruitment.
Am I off the mark? Did we take the bait?
-FP
Reread all of his posts. EK is GREAT, there have been cuts world wide, we are lucky to be here, I've read the complaints about Emirates but you should try working over here
, China (one of EK's major competitors in terms of attracting pilots in the future) is garbage, EK is the best...I'm guessing this probationary user is just some propaganda spitting, Costa sipping, Brooks Brothers wearing, yes man from HQ. Tasked with getting on this forum and trying to put a positive spin on life in Dubai for the sake of future recruitment.
Am I off the mark? Did we take the bait?
-FP
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Looks like a well place lure has caught out those with their wading pants down ...
I also think this guy has to be fake. But, I'll jump in anyway.
DD, one question. What type are you currently on? This could have some bearing, regarding time to upgrade.
I also think this guy has to be fake. But, I'll jump in anyway.
DD, one question. What type are you currently on? This could have some bearing, regarding time to upgrade.
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Thanks for all the information and I can assure you im not fake.
Based on the information I have read here and talking to people in the know, I have decided to stay put in my job here and keep an eye our for better contracts.
It was a tough decision, but as the say. Better the devil you know than the one you dont know.
Based on the information I have read here and talking to people in the know, I have decided to stay put in my job here and keep an eye our for better contracts.
It was a tough decision, but as the say. Better the devil you know than the one you dont know.
